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6 hours ago, CrownBariDad said:

Were they scored on WC sheets?  IDK -- I thought they did away with WC vs OC scoring differences to avoid that big drop in scoring when OC Corps joined WC at Prelims in Indy. 

Yes, since 2014, Open Class corps have been judged on the same sheets as World Class corps (for 2011-2013, they were only on the same sheets at World Class Prelims and Semifinals; prior to that, they had not been judged on the same sheets for many years). International corps should be judged on the same sheets, too. (All Age corps like Cincinnati Tradition are judged on separate sheets, and not very consistently.) However, the sheets in DCUK/DCE are quite different, so some drop was expected for The Company's American debut. This was just a bit more than some of us anticipated. If Taipei Yuehfu could score 60 on World Class sheets in 2013 and and Gita Surosowan Banten could score 66 on World Class sheets in 2015, then this score seems low.

But let's see what develops.

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8 hours ago, Florida Sun said:

After watching many video\s of Company why the 12point drop in scoring ?There much better then that score from Clifton

 

Keep in mind that in addition to the differences in the scoring sheets between DCE/DCUK and DCI, this was the first performance by The Company following overseas travel AND their first performance using borrowed equipment.

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2 hours ago, HeWhoWaits said:

Keep in mind that in addition to the differences in the scoring sheets between DCE/DCUK and DCI, this was the first performance by The Company following overseas travel AND their first performance using borrowed equipment.

Blame jet lag for the first show. 

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Just for fun:

9.  67.350 Guardians -- Oregon, IL 8/2 (-0.300 8/1)

10.  66.100 7th Regiment -- Oregon, IL 8/2 (-1.200 7/30)

**.  65.650 Pioneer - Annapolis, MD 8/1

11.  65.450 The Company -- Clifton, NJ 8/3 (-12.000 7/16*)

12.  64.000 Southwind -- Oregon, IL 8/2 (+0.650 7/29)

13.  63.000 Raiders -- Waukesha, WI 8/2 (+2.650 7/30)

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On 7/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, N.E. Brigand said:

Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows.

AS OF AUGUST 4

1.  78.650 Vanguard Cadets -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+0.600 8/2)

2.  77.550 Blue Devils B -- Waukesha, WI 8/2 (+3.700 7/29)

3.  74.500 Legends -- Waukesha, WI 8/2 (+2.950 7/30)

4.  74.075 Spartans -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+2.525 8/2)

5.  71.700 Music City -- Oregon, IL 8/2 (+2.850 7/28)

6.  71.675 Gold -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+1.375 8/2)

7.  70.550 Louisiana Stars -- Waukesha, WI 8/2 (+9.300 7/24)

8.  68.575 Guardians -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+1.225 8/2)

9.  68.075 River City Rhythm -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+0.225 8/2)

10.  66.500 The Company -- Allentown, PA 8/4 (+1.050 8/2)

11.  66.100 7th Regiment -- Oregon, IL 8/2 (-1.200 7/30)

12.  64.000 Southwind -- Oregon, IL 8/2 (+0.650 7/29)

13.  63.000 Raiders -- Waukesha, WI 8/2 (+2.650 7/30)

14.  61.350 Colt Cadets -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+3.250 8/2)

15.  60.175 Shadow -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+1.775 8/2)

16.  59.700 Golden Empire -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.650 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

17.  59.100 The Battalion -- Denver, CO 7/15 (+1.400 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

18.  58.600 Watchmen -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+2.100 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

19.  57.400 Heat Wave -- Knoxville, TN 7/19 (+3.450 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

20.  57.350 Impulse -- Oregon, IL 8/2 (-2.550 7/29)

21.  57.100 Columbians -- Denver, CO 7/12 (-0.200 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

22.  55.250 Les Stentors -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (-0.200 8/2)

23.  50.400 Incognito -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+3.050 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

24.  48.100 Blue Devils C -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.550 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 21st)

Next shows:  Avon Lake and Cedar Rapids on August 5

The Sheffield competition was rained out.

There is a 50% chance of rain for the Cedar Rapids show Saturday night.

That would have the advantage of putting all corps on equal footing as regards scoring averages for Prelims.

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Monday and Tuesday weather both look good for Michigan City. Hope that holds up.

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On 7/3/2017 at 1:22 AM, N.E. Brigand said:

Remember that there are risks inherent in comparing scores from different shows.

AS OF AUGUST 5

1.  78.763 Blue Devils B -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+1.213 8/2)

2.  78.475 Vanguard Cadets -- Cedar Rapids, IA 8/5 (-0.175 8/4)

3.  76.238 Legends -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+1.738 8/2)

4.  76.213 Music City -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+4.513 8/2)

5.  73.513 Spartans -- Cedar Rapids, IA 8/5 (-0.562 8/4)

6.  71.675 Louisiana Stars -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+1.125 8/2)

7.  71.450 The Company -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+4.950 8/4)

8.  71.350 7th Regiment -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+5.250 8/2)

9.  70.475 Gold -- Cedar Rapids, IA 8/5 (-1.200 8/4)

10.  68.075 River City Rhythm -- Oregon, WI 8/4 (+0.225 8/2)

11.  67.550 Guardians -- Cedar Rapids, IA 8/5 (-1.025 8/4)

---.  67.550 Southwind -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+3.550 8/2)

13.  64.800 Raiders -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+1.800 8/2)

14.  62.150 Shadow -- Cedar Rapids, IA 8/5 (+1.975 8/4)

15.  61.300 Colt Cadets -- Cedar Rapids, IA 8/5 (-0.050 8/4)

16.  59.700 Golden Empire -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.650 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

17.  59.100 The Battalion -- Denver, CO 7/15 (+1.400 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 7th)

18.  58.600 Watchmen -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+2.100 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 9th)

19.  58.425 Impulse -- Avon Lake, OH 8/5 (+1.575 8/2)

20.  57.400 Heat Wave -- Knoxville, TN 7/19 (+3.450 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 12th)

21.  57.100 Columbians -- Denver, CO 7/12 (-0.200 7/12) SEASON COMPLETE (at 10th)

22.  50.400 Incognito -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+3.050 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 19th)

23.  49.600 Les Stentors -- Cedar Rapids, IA 8/5 (-5.850 8/4)

24.  48.100 Blue Devils C -- Bellflower, CA 7/16 (+1.550 7/15) SEASON COMPLETE (at 21st)

Next shows:  Open Class Prelims in Michigan City on August 7

And the Open Class regular season is done. Lots of improvement in Avon Lake, not so much in Cedar Rapids. The former matched my own figures within a point in most cases, so I am inclined to suspect the latter are a trifle too low.

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Here, in reverse order, is what I believe to be the Prelims performance schedule. The number shown is the average of the two highest scores earned by each corps on the late-season Open Class tour. I have assumed The Company will perform based on their score rather than before or after the other corps. Since they only performed once on the O.C. tour, their average includes their Allentown score.

78.563  Vanguard Cadets

78.157  Blue Devils B

75.394  Legends

73.957  Music City

73.794  Spartans

71.113  Louisiana Stars

71.075  Gold

69.425  7th Regiment

68.975  The Company

68.063  Guardians

67.963  River City Rhythm

65.775  Southwind

63.900  Raiders

61.325  Colt Cadets

61.163  Shadow

59.163  Impulse

55.350  Les Stentors

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10 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said:

Here, in reverse order, is what I believe to be the Prelims performance schedule. The number shown is the average of the two highest scores earned by each corps on the late-season Open Class tour. I have assumed The Company will perform based on their score rather than before or after the other corps. Since they only performed once on the O.C. tour, their average includes their Allentown score. ...

For the record: the order is indeed based on average of the two highest scores earned from July 26 (Cape Girardeau) through August 5 (Avon Lake and Cedar Rapids), matching what I wrote above--except for The Company, who goes on last.

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