UNCGQ Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) Not to 'derail' the discussion from the turn it took, but just wanted to chime in regarding why we're not at the CV show in a couple of weeks and choose to go to Reading to end the season for those that like the 'inside baseball' type of discussion. Most out there who have been involved at the admin level of various corps over the years know that a million different 'non-obvious' reasons factor into why a group does or doesn't do a particular show and this is one of those. We love the guys 'down the road' in Atlanta absolutely to death as Dan and crew will attest, but for us, with Champs in Rochester the next weekend, we're able to leave both equipment trailers and renal truck in the PA area after the show saving on transport costs of those and 'wear and tear' on the trailers and drivers, and although there are many other smaller 'contributing factors', that one is the most significant. We perform in Charlotte Pride the following day and anything we can do to make trip a little more tolerable before heading north a few days later factors large into the discussion when we piece together a schedule. The loss of the Downingtown show hurt and the lack of a performance opportunity at the end of July that we normally have hurt as well. But with that said, there wasn't much anybody was able to do between the loss of the stadium for the PA show, the lack of the dome for the DCI show, etc. We'd of course like more performance opportunities for the members, more scores and additional input from the judging community but the season thus far has turned out how it has turned out, and that's not the fault of any of the show sponsors of those two events. Some years are just like that. We'd of course love to just post the video of the run from our Friends & Family show last weekend, but as you all know, it today's world of Copyright litigation, those days are long over. With that said, we have our last full rehearsal weekend coming up and look forward to seeing everybody in Reading and Rochester to close out the season before our three Independent Open indoor groups get rolling a few weeks later. Best wishes to all and see you on the 50! -Larry Harper, Jr. Edited August 14, 2017 by UNCGQ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 12 hours ago, Terri Schehr said: I don't like Rochester but it's accessible by air. If I go to Williamsport, I'd have to fly to Harrisburg, drive over 100 miles...or I could fly to Williamsport with no less than one stop, and it costs a bazillion dollars....so I'm not going. And I know easily six midwesterners who aren't going. Probably more. It will be great for those in the northeast. But those outside the region... yeah if you want to drive 80 all the way ok, air isn't quite as friendly. Harrisburg's not a bad airport, and neither is Scranton, but the drive from Harrisburg up there til the Shamokin Dam bypass is done will frustrate some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 46 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: yeah if you want to drive 80 all the way ok, air isn't quite as friendly. Harrisburg's not a bad airport, and neither is Scranton, but the drive from Harrisburg up there til the Shamokin Dam bypass is done will frustrate some. Well... there's always Skeeter's for some good BBQ along the way!!! LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Fran Haring said: Well... there's always Skeeter's for some good BBQ along the way!!! LOL and Reptile Land 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Schehr Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: yeah if you want to drive 80 all the way ok, air isn't quite as friendly. Harrisburg's not a bad airport, and neither is Scranton, but the drive from Harrisburg up there til the Shamokin Dam bypass is done will frustrate some. I've talked to allot of people who won't be attending DCA in Williamsport. Frankly I'm not a fan of the town, stadium or hotels. Sure we could fly into Harrisburg and drive, but I'm one for convenience and accommodations. Don't even get me started on the stadiums lack of attributes. Maybe we will reconsider going again in 2020. Edited August 14, 2017 by Jim Schehr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 6 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: yeah if you want to drive 80 all the way ok, air isn't quite as friendly. Harrisburg's not a bad airport, and neither is Scranton, but the drive from Harrisburg up there til the Shamokin Dam bypass is done will frustrate some. That's a long drive. I got antsy driving to LaCrosse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 58 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: That's a long drive. I got antsy driving to LaCrosse! when the shamokin Dam bypass is done, that will help a lot...15 right now funnels you into one lane to merge back onto 15 in Shamokin Dam...which is retail strip central, tons of red lights. When it's done (2024 is the plan), you'll bypass that mess, cross the river and connect to 180 which will help a lot just getting to Lewisburg alone. At least from the airport you can go 4 lanes all the way until that. From my side of the mudflow...err Susquehanna....15 doesnt turn into 4 lanes right below 322. Nuthin like dealing with Purry County traffic! Then again, I remember the mess above Williamsport til they finished it. Shaved an hour off the drive easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: when the shamokin Dam bypass is done, that will help a lot...15 right now funnels you into one lane to merge back onto 15 in Shamokin Dam...which is retail strip central, tons of red lights. When it's done (2024 is the plan), you'll bypass that mess, cross the river and connect to 180 which will help a lot just getting to Lewisburg alone. At least from the airport you can go 4 lanes all the way until that. From my side of the mudflow...err Susquehanna....15 doesnt turn into 4 lanes right below 322. Nuthin like dealing with Purry County traffic! Then again, I remember the mess above Williamsport til they finished it. Shaved an hour off the drive easily. Oh man... I remember that construction zone in 1996 on our trip to Rochester. What a nightmare, from Williamsport all the way to the NYS line. Now it's a nice scenic drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Around 2 hours from Harrisburg to Williamsport. If you don't stop at BJ's in Selinsgrove for a lovely dinner like I did. Yes, the traffic from Selinsgrove through up to the 11/15 split is stop and go. Not as bad as my old commute to work in Harrisburg. Still not as bad as my new commute because at least clueless pedestrians don't wander about aimlessly in traffic not caring whether a car is on the street like they do in Steelton. (When and not if, there will be an incident over that that will cause some kind of riot, I'm terrified some Steelton cluck will wander/stagger/bumble into my car and start the mess. You heard it here first.) Oh, and people don't just stop like they do in Steelton in the middle of the street to hold a lengthy conversation with someone on the sidewalk and block traffic for several minutes... I've made worse runs to places. Easier and safer drive to Williamsport than to Clifton from here to be frank. Granted the City may not be what certain people want... but as in Annapolis, some folks will not go that did to Rochester... and some folks will go to Williamsport that did not and would not care to go to Rochester. As I've said, they seem to have a built in local audience that's really appreciative. The town also appears to care about hosting. People at the A-Plus asked me how the show went and the clerk at the register wanted to go and couldn't get off his shift. So, my guess is to get tickets early if you're caring to go, the locals/folks nearby will fill 60-65 percent of the seats minimum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErieSopMike Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 20 minutes ago, BigW said: Around 2 hours from Harrisburg to Williamsport. If you don't stop at BJ's in Selinsgrove for a lovely dinner like I did. Yes, the traffic from Selinsgrove through up to the 11/15 split is stop and go. Not as bad as my old commute to work in Harrisburg. Still not as bad as my new commute because at least clueless pedestrians don't wander about aimlessly in traffic not caring whether a car is on the street like they do in Steelton. (When and not if, there will be an incident over that that will cause some kind of riot, I'm terrified some Steelton cluck will wander/stagger/bumble into my car and start the mess. You heard it here first.) Oh, and people don't just stop like they do in Steelton in the middle of the street to hold a lengthy conversation with someone on the sidewalk and block traffic for several minutes... I've made worse runs to places. Easier and safer drive to Williamsport than to Clifton from here to be frank. Granted the City may not be what certain people want... but as in Annapolis, some folks will not go that did to Rochester... and some folks will go to Williamsport that did not and would not care to go to Rochester. As I've said, they seem to have a built in local audience that's really appreciative. The town also appears to care about hosting. People at the A-Plus asked me how the show went and the clerk at the register wanted to go and couldn't get off his shift. So, my guess is to get tickets early if you're caring to go, the locals/folks nearby will fill 60-65 percent of the seats minimum. Back in the early 2000's, Mansfield University was a melting pot of all different corps. We had people that marched Bluecoats, Jersey Surf and others for DCI and Reading, Empire, Syracuse, Skyliners in DCA (from what I can remember). Dr. Brennan worked with the Empire pit, Matt Spatz was one of primary members of Fusion Core. Needless to say, you'll have a lot of influence from Mansfield University at DCA's more than likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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