brianella Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 minute ago, ShortAndFast said: I didn't observe the DCI judges killing Bluecoats in 2016 for exactly that type of show. If u think 2018 Scouts is exactly the same type of show as 2016 Bluecoats, there is a lot u didn’t observe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmurrey74 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, ShortAndFast said: I didn't observe the DCI judges killing Bluecoats in 2016 for exactly that type of show. And to think that both Jon Vanderkoff and Jim Moore were at Madison. They were given all the freedom they wanted when they moved to Bluecoats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortAndFast Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, rmurrey74 said: And to think that both Jon Vanderkoff and Jim Moore were at Madison. They were given all the freedom they wanted when they moved to Bluecoats. I agree. Madison has unquestionably had some of the very best designers and staff in DCI over the last decade. But they've all moved on. But it's particularly notable to me how Bloo succeeded with a very Madison-style show. If you could have taken a fan from 1995, brought him forward in time to a Bluecoats 2016 rehearsal and asked him "what corps is this?", he would definitely have answered "Scouts". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerpella Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Madcityscout said: I honestly think this year’s show concept was a good modern idea. Now, design wise it could have been better sure. So many people said the show was a beautiful show. Maybe they could build on something dealing more with love and unity in a modern way in the future. Personally I thought the show idea might have made more sense 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 2 hours ago, afd said: For one thing the "costumes" or uniforms really are just not Madison Scouts. They look like a Disneyland High School musical group. I really think you can be update but have your look and know that this is the Madison Scouts. When I first saw them unless they were announced they were MS I would have never known that. Boston doesn’t look like Boston and yet no one is complaining. Why? Because the design of the show is good and placing well. Winning fixes all problems 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) I’m not understanding the comparisons to Bloo. Just because of the jazz and screamers? Scouts alums would go equally as crazy if Madison dressed up in Bloo 2016-2017 type of uniforms Bluecoats are staging masters, they don’t do any of the flashy things the Madison scouts used to do such as company fronts If jazz and screamers is what people think is all it’s gonna take to get Madison competitive, they’re going to be disappointed. Edit: forgot to add that one of the big appeals behind Bloo is their masterful use of technology and amplification. That kind of thing would not fly well with Scouts alums. Edited August 8, 2018 by Cappybara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madcityscout Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmurrey74 Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, Cappybara said: I’m not understanding the comparisons to Bloo. Just because of the jazz and screamers? Scouts alums would go equally as crazy if Madison dressed up in Bloo 2016-2017 type of uniforms Bluecoats are staging masters, they don’t do any of the flashy things the Madison scouts used to do such as company fronts If jazz and screamers is what people think is all it’s gonna take to get Madison competitive, they’re going to be disappointed. Edit: forgot to add that one of the big appeals behind Bloo is their masterful use of technology and amplification. That kind of thing would not fly well with Scouts alums. Company fronts are flashy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 46 minutes ago, Cappybara said: Boston doesn’t look like Boston and yet no one is complaining. Why? Because the design of the show is good and placing well. Winning fixes all problems Yes. Like how in 1997, Madison departed from their stylistic track and did a heavily thematic show, yet there was no drama because they stayed top 5. I imagine that if "Pirates of Lake Mendota" had been ranking 16th, reactions would have been much like what we see here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, rmurrey74 said: Company fronts are flashy? By modern visual standards, yes I understand at a certain point in time in DCI, company fronts were practically obligatory. But now they’re not exactly the standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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