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On 8/23/2017 at 9:35 AM, c mor said:

Wow, I didn't know that!  That's insane!  I can't believe this is even allowed!  DCI needs to do something!  Have you mentioned this to anyone yet?  If you start a petition, I'll sign it.

It's been talked about for decades. There are many reasons it will never change, some of them legal. But the most important one is the simple fact that dci is nothing more than a collection of member corps organizations, and half of those organizations directly benefit by the current situation at the expense of the other half of dci. IOW, why would they vote to change a rule that virtually guarantees they will remain in finals forever?

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4 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:

It's been talked about for decades. There are many reasons it will never change, some of them legal. But the most important one is the simple fact that dci is nothing more than a collection of member corps organizations, and half of those organizations directly benefit by the current situation at the expense of the other half of dci. IOW, why would they vote to change a rule that virtually guarantees they will remain in finals forever?

I was one of the many voting at the first Rules Congresses who voted to do away with transfers and permission slips, provided the mm didn't owe any money to the corps the mm was leaving.

The assemblage found the implementation of the AL and  VFW plus CYO rules much too cumbersome. No one wanted a kid who didn't want to march with them anymore. And that was in the days when corps were straining to reach 128 members from the neighborhood. Now imagine the secretaries needed and salaries for the same when corps are 150 plus alternates with membership from around the globe. From Mars too if you count the Cavaliers. Only much later in history was the Rules Congress limited to the top corps' approval.

Your comment has some merit, but their are other sage aspects to be considered beyond what you have championed. History has already been down this path.

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 Anybody know how many age outs Troopers, Oregon Crusaders, Jersey Surf,  had for 2017 ?..... also, if anybody wants to chime in on BDB, SCV Cadets, and so forth from the Open Class, feel free to do so.

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23 hours ago, Mikeklaw said:

Colts had 25 age-outs this year. 

http://colts.org/2017_194.html

The Colts' 25 2017 age-outs included 6 Brass (2 T, M 0, B/E 2, C 2), 10 Perc (3 S, 0 T, 1 B, 4 FE), 8 CG and 1 DM.

5 were MM for 4 yrs, 4 for 3,  4 for 2 and 12 for 1 yr.

All of the 25 MM of The Red Team should be proud of their results this year and for helping establish a base for next year's effort to make finals.

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13 minutes ago, Ghost said:

Just learned the Cockatiel Bird Corps one snare has aged out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsLn28TPUT0

 

 That Corps for the birds.

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According to flomarching.com here are the ageout numbers. http://www.flomarching.com/article/61472-which-corps-has-the-most-open-spots-for-2018

"With many more people finishing out their marching careers in World Class, the average number of age-outs in World Class corps was 32. Even more interesting is that the average number of age-outs in the Finalists corps is 42, with a total of 509 age-outs between the top 12 corps."

 

Corps # of Age-Outs
The Academy 45
Blue Devils 60
Blue Knights 35
Blue Stars 40
Bluecoats 54
Boston Crusaders 36
The Cadets 45
Carolina Crown 45
The Cavaliers 43
Colts 25
Crossmen 20
Jersey Surf 20
Genesis 9
Madison Scouts 30
Mandarins 13
Oregon Crusaders 22
Pacific Crest 17
Phantom Regiment 45
Pioneer 12
Seattle Cascades 21
Santa Clara Vanguard 56
Spirit of Atlanta 25
Troopers 22
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Same list from most age-outs to least...ties are in bold.

  1. Blue Devils
  2. SCV
  3. Bluecoats
  4. Crown
  5. PR
  6. Academy
  7. Cadets
  8. Cavaliers
  9. Blue Stars
  10. Boston Crusaders
  11. Blue Knights
  12. Madison Scouts
  13. Colts
  14. SOA
  15. OC
  16. Troopers
  17. Cascades
  18. Jersey Surf
  19. Crossmen
  20. Pacific crest
  21. Mandarins
  22. Pioneer
  23. Genesis
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