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57 minutes ago, Fran Haring said:

Man... remember that night? When they came down the street, behind the police escort, and when we saw the new uniforms... a classic "What the..." moment!!!

I also remember the "They're ruining drum corps" comments. Ironically, several old-schoolers on Facebook now call the Bridgemen from those days "real drum corps."  :8_laughing:

 The Bridgemen changed their Cadets styled uniforms for the '76 season. If " old schoolers " in '76 did not like their attire in '76, and were 45 years old or older at the time, if they are now posting on facebook, that they like the '76 Bridgemen, then God Bless them Fran that they are still around and posting on social media as they're now 90 years old or older.... 

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 Speaking of what constitutes "REAL Drum Corps " in some peoples minds, back in the 90's, I was at a meeting in NY, and met a guy and during a break we struck up a conversation about our hobbies. I mentioned one of mine was " Drum Corps ". He told me he was a fan of " Drum Corps" too.  I asked him where he was from. he said a town in " Connecticut ". So I asked him if he had heard of the " Connecticut Hurricanes " He tells me " Sure. I know of them. But they're not real Drum Corps ". I asked him what he meant. He tells me... " REAL Drum Corps don't have Bugles ". Now, getting more curious, I ask him... " Why not ? ". He says... " Real Drum Corps have fifes,.. not bugles". He then says he marches in a Fife & Drum Corps in Connecticut , and they have competitions up and down the east coast. He says that " Drum Corps " should only have fifes" ( a woodwind coincidentally.. haha ). I could tell he was pretty adamant about this, and saw no value in  disagreeing with him on this, as otherwise he seemed rather civil and friendly, and it was a brief chat between meetings only, anyway. But it was a eye opener for me. It just shows that each person really has their own idea of what " REAL " Drum Corps is. For this gentlemen I met,  " REAL Drum Corps did not go off the rails in 2017 or 1990, 1980, 1970, 1960, 1950............. but in 1860, 1820, 1790,, or some such, ( haha!)  when  " Drum Corps " introduced the brass instrument as an addition and/ or replacement for the original, " REAL " Drum Corps " units component....... the fife...... lol!

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14 hours ago, Fran Haring said:

2002 Cadets... great show (my opinion, of course), lots of audience appeal, and the tone was perfect for a nation still trying to heal from 9/11.

But not high on my list of all-time greatest Cadets shows. For me, well back of shows like 1971, 1984, 1987, 1990, 2005, 2011, to name some.

the added cheese finals week was a letdown

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4 hours ago, MikeD said:

My first viewing of Bayonne in the banana unis was at their home show in Bayonne, if I recall. I do know there was a lot of "This is not drum corps" amongst the older fans, but I loved them from the beginning of that era. 

I used to compete against them in the GSC in 68/69 when they were St Andrew's, though being 15-20 points behind them, it wasn't much of a competition.  :bored:

I do recall at the 69 GSC champs they and St Martin's Troubadors from Newark got into a huge fight on the field at retreat, so bad that St Martin's moderator folded the corps that year. 

 

 

oh i remember asking my dad at age 7 at Franklin Field why "old men" didn't like it, because many didnt

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14 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 Speaking of what constitutes "REAL Drum Corps " in some peoples minds, back in the 90's, I was at a meeting in NY, and met a guy and during a break we struck up a conversation about our hobbies. I mentioned one of mine was " Drum Corps ". He told me he was a fan of " Drum Corps" too.  I asked him where he was from. he said a town in " Connecticut ". So I asked him if he had heard of the " Connecticut Hurricanes " He tells me " Sure. I know of them. But they're not real Drum Corps ". I asked him what he meant. He tells me... " REAL Drum Corps don't have Bugles ". Now, getting more curious, I ask him... " Why not ? ". He says... " Real Drum Corps have fifes,.. not bugles". He then says he marches in a Fife & Drum Corps in Connecticut , and they have competitions up and down the east coast. He says that " Drum Corps " should only have fifes" ( a woodwind coincidentally.. haha ). I could tell he was pretty adamant about this, and saw no value in  disagreeing with him on this, as otherwise he seemed rather civil and friendly, and it was a brief chat between meetings only, anyway. But it was a eye opener for me. It just shows that each person really has their own idea of what " REAL " Drum Corps is. For this gentlemen I met,  " REAL Drum Corps did not go off the rails in 2017 or 1990, 1980, 1970, 1960, 1950............. but in 1860, 1820, 1790,, or some such, ( haha!)  when  " Drum Corps " introduced the brass instrument as an addition and/ or replacement for the original, " REAL " Drum Corps " units component....... the fife...... lol!

I went to the Fife and Drum museum in CT back in the 80's, when I was doing a lot of MB judging in that state.

CT was a hotbed of F&D corps.

 

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33 minutes ago, MikeD said:

But, I do know a guy named George who loves turkey

:1_grinning:

 

 Waffles.

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7 hours ago, xandandl said:

Ah that explains your St. Vinnie's-like feistiness.

LOL... that might be the first time anyone's described me as "feisty"... or at least the first in decades!!!! 

Gotta admit, though... my inner "Jersey Guy" does come out from time to time. :tongue:

My mom grew up on Silver Street... a block over from the famed Venice Tavern. It was St. Andrew's country, downtown, near the Bayonne Bridge.  That area was where most of my mom's family lived, including one relative who was a numbers runner for the neighborhood... story for another day. :innocent: Many of the family stories from back then... very Damon Runyon-esque.  LOL.

My godmother,  her sister and their families lived uptown... 52nd Street, I think it was.... St. Vinnie's home turf!!!

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1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said:

the added cheese finals week was a letdown

Yeah... didn't see it that week, but I heard about the stuff like the fire alarm, etc.  Not really needed, I agree.

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