ftwdrummer Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So, Star '91 is probably one of the five best champion shows ever (I personally have it first, but I can see arguments for SCV '89/Cavies '02/BD '14/etc.). But there's a question about it that just popped into my head tonight. So, we've read the story of Zingali teaching the cross-to-cross on the fly, more or less coming up with it on the spot in rehearsal one day. Does anyone remember what the ending to the show was before that got put in? I don't know when it got put in in the season, so I have no idea what parts of the country would have seen the original ending. And it's unlikely that publicly available video of it survives, unless someone still has their VHS that they recorded with their camcorder in 1991. Anyone happen to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 35 minutes ago, ftwdrummer said: So, Star '91 is probably one of the five best champion shows ever (I personally have it first, but I can see arguments for SCV '89/Cavies '02/BD '14/etc.). But there's a question about it that just popped into my head tonight. So, we've read the story of Zingali teaching the cross-to-cross on the fly, more or less coming up with it on the spot in rehearsal one day. Does anyone remember what the ending to the show was before that got put in? I don't know when it got put in in the season, so I have no idea what parts of the country would have seen the original ending. And it's unlikely that publicly available video of it survives, unless someone still has their VHS that they recorded with their camcorder in 1991. Anyone happen to know? That’s a great question. I saw their show several times that year but I don’t remember the original ending. The last one is burned into my memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ediker Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: That’s a great question. I saw their show several times that year but I don’t remember the original ending. The last one is burned into my memory. I saw them once, live, mid-season. Don't remember the original ending. Even without the final ending, it was clear that this show would be a classic... brass was so clean and drill so demanding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Ediker said: I saw them once, live, mid-season. Don't remember the original ending. Even without the final ending, it was clear that this show would be a classic... brass was so clean and drill so demanding. And great GE. As for the new ending. It's been years since I heard how and where GZ added it, but I'm thinking it was done at a night time practice in a BU parking lot. BRASSO or craiga might have the correct answer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Ghost said: And great GE. As for the new ending. It's been years since I heard how and where GZ added it, but I'm thinking it was done at a night time practice in a BU parking lot. BRASSO or craiga might have the correct answer. Didn't they actually have people pull up their cars close to field and turn on their lights..so they could have some sort of light source learning the new ending? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Ghost said: And great GE. As for the new ending. It's been years since I heard how and where GZ added it, but I'm thinking it was done at a night time practice in a BU parking lot. BRASSO or craiga might have the correct answer. or ask a few that might have been there there are a few from time to time here maybe they were there too Edited December 12, 2017 by GUARDLING 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ghost said: And great GE. As for the new ending. It's been years since I heard how and where GZ added it, but I'm thinking it was done at a night time practice in a BU parking lot. BRASSO or craiga might have the correct answer. Sorry .. but I couldn't tell anyone here where or when Zingali came up with his brilliantly creative Cross to Cross '91 Star of Indiana visual move. I wouldn't know. He had left 27th, the Cadets, and these East Coast Corps staffs by then and thus was nowhere near Boston University ( "BU " ) when he came up with this visual move for this Indiana based Drum Corps in '91. Edited December 12, 2017 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I remember the old ending musically, but I don't know how to describe it. It was generally the same music, less powerful, and more staccato. I seem to remember a floating form, maybe with stars instead of the cross to cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liahona Posted December 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, ftwdrummer said: So, Star '91 is probably one of the five best champion shows ever (I personally have it first, but I can see arguments for SCV '89/Cavies '02/BD '14/etc.). But there's a question about it that just popped into my head tonight. So, we've read the story of Zingali teaching the cross-to-cross on the fly, more or less coming up with it on the spot in rehearsal one day. Does anyone remember what the ending to the show was before that got put in? I don't know when it got put in in the season, so I have no idea what parts of the country would have seen the original ending. And it's unlikely that publicly available video of it survives, unless someone still has their VHS that they recorded with their camcorder in 1991. Anyone happen to know? I found a story about this online...although it doesn't answer your question..I suppose some newer folks have not heard the story...apparently they had another "new" ending that GZ wrote that he hated...they were in Massachusetts according to the DM account for this new ending cross to cross... Quote The Cross to Cross...Star of Indiana Drum and Bugle Corps, 1991 March 6, 2012 at 7:13am As so many of us celebrate George today, I thought I would repost this note. Enjoy and I hope it finds you "10 points bettah!!!" I have written or told this story so many times, I have lost count, but every time I do…it’s always like the first. Everyone remembers their own perspective of that night, but mine was especially unique. For those who may be hearing this story for the first time, I was Drum Major of the Corps that season and we were pressing harder and harder every minute of every day towards what we hoped would be a World Championship…we had no idea what we would receive instead. In the end, the Championship was important, but not what any of us ever talk about or remember. We were in Massachusetts and we had heard that we would be putting the new ending of the show on. George had become very ill and we only saw him at random times. He had written an ending, sent the charts, and we taught and cleaned it all day. It was some standard drill, with great movement of course, that landed in a “crown” and then reversed out of it for 3 moves or so, then finished in 2 new sets. It was…ok, at best. We worked and worked and worked all day and you could tell that there was some angst and even some doubt about the ending. 8:45pm. We perform the full run. 9:00pm. Everyone takes water and prepares for the Visual rehearsal that was scheduled from 9-12. Around 9:10 or so…in walks George. He’s wrapped in a blanket and frail. He tells me to get the Corps together and get them seated. We bring everyone up to the 50, front sideline to sit. George says, “So…the new ending…whadda ya think?” A couple of “Yeah…it’s great.”, some mumbling too. George says, “Well…I HATE IT!!! That’s why we’re going to learn a whole new ending right now!” The Corps goes crazy…we were ready. Meanwhile, Jim Mason, our Director, has pulled the Visual Staff off to the side and tells them that George doesn’t want anyone on the field. They are NOT happy. Discussion ensues, but in the end, they all head up into the stadium stands and sit down just below the pressbox. George is gaining strength. He explains to the Corps that there are no charts…nothing. “I’ve got it all right here.” He says, as he points to his temple with that big grin on his face. He tells me to get the Corps set and then pulls me to the front sideline with him. During the season of ’91, George taught me to see…not just how to “write drill”, but how to see motion. I was blessed and lucky to spend time with him and glean everything I could from his genius. So, back to the front sideline, George says, “Bwobby. I’m going to do a set on the field and I want you to go behind me and set it. Then Todd is going to 'chaht' it up top. Do you understand.?” Yes, George. And so we began. George pulls half of the Mellophones out of the Cross. “You come here…make me a straight line.” They all ran to get in. Then he looked at me and I put the line at equal intervals and the correct angle he wanted. “Now run it.” And so I had them reset, and ran the 8 counts while George morphed the next line segment. When he had them, the Mellos stayed where they were, and I ran the new line. On and on this process went…lines EVERYWHERE! Some lines curling back around, others floating…pure madness! George loved us taking ownership as well…if I remember correctly, the Bass Drums wrote half of their own drill. From the field, all you could tell was that it was highly kinetic. We stopped for a quick break around 11:30pm or so and George ate a candy bar and we were back at it. Now…it is approaching 2am (if I remember correctly). There had been some discussion about not going past midnight, but that just wouldn’t do. We had George…we had to finish. I see where George is going, although I did not realize what this had become, and I set the endpoints so he can bleed the lines seamlessly into the final Cross. We work the last few line segments together and we’re ready. George, bless him, was exhausted. Mike Huber (I think his name was) was helping take care of George and helped him off the field and took him home. I asked the Corps if we needed a break…I was told no (not in so many words). We reset to the first Cross and ran everything set to set. We reset again. It’s at least 2am. The Front Ensemble has come in to watch along with anyone left awake on staff and they are at the top of the stadium. Todd Ryan is whispering through the long-ranger and says, “Ok Bobby…let’s run it…waaaaay down tempo and keep the volume down.” I gave Todd the thumbs-up and turned back to the Corps. “You guys think we need to do this down tempo and quietly?” I asked sarcastically…again I was met with responses I cannot type in an open forum…we all had George’s grin on our faces. I count it off…192 beats per minute. Just before the Corps steps off, I hear what I remember being the beginnings of the word, “NOOOOOOOO!!!” from the top of the stadium…that didn’t matter. We ran it. Full Tilt…Full Out and it was…memorable. I cut the final note off, bring the horns down and turn around. All I see is paper flying at the top of the stadium and all I hear is screaming. As a member of the Corps, seeing the staff react to what we had just done was again…memorable. I yelled up something like, “How was that?!?” After the dust settled, we did run it a few more times, yes, down tempo then loaded up to head back to our housing. A few nights later we performed it at the next competition, in Lynn, Mass. It’s hard to explain the crowd’s reaction, but I just remember turning around and laughing. The rest is history and the entire moment is, in my humble opinion, still the greatest Drum Corps ending…ever. Edited December 12, 2017 by Liahona 17 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ediker Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Keep an eye on the percussion judge during the last 40 seconds. They don't make 'em like they used to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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