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The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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Just now, footform said:

"The Case of the Pilfered Pieces" a tasty novel, indeed.

There also was the "Case of the Pilfered Beef Jerky." An entire work area got stung. I know Beef Jerky's pricey but is it worth your job, no matter how tasty? :tic:

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In thinking about how far back GH's misdeeds go, I began wondering... assuming the allegations are true, what if he had been caught and ousted long ago... decades ago?  Certainly fewer victims.  But, also, what would DCI look like today... the butterfly effect.  GH was a pivotal force in shaping the way drum corps has changed in the last couple decades in regard to electronics, amplification, new instruments, etc.  I don't want to open up a debate on the controversial changes he pushed for, but rather just to note that his presence or dominance in the activity has taken it on a certain path to where it is now.  It is interesting to me just to hypothesize about what shows might look like today if his last year with DCI was somewhere in the 90's.

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27 minutes ago, garfield said:

Well, this is easy.

Hey George Dixon, did you make a comment about hoping Cadets will "...pay down debt..." as if to inform us that, in your opinion, Cadets have too much debt?  Do you, by chance, know how much debt they have?  Either marginal numbers or even as a percentage of gross income?

Has anyone given you information that makes you believe debt-reduction should be a prime focus to right the Cadets' financial ship?

 

Back in October of 2017 on Reddit I read the resignation letter from the director of USBands that stated YEA was nearly $1 million in debt and it is because GH didn't know how to use a simple budget. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/drumcorps/comments/75djf0/the_truth_about_george_hopkins/

 

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14 minutes ago, BigW said:

There also was the "Case of the Pilfered Beef Jerky." An entire work area got stung. I know Beef Jerky's pricey but is it worth your job, no matter how tasty? :tic:

Look for the people with good teeth lol. 

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7 minutes ago, Jim Schehr said:

Back in October of 2017 on Reddit I read the resignation letter from the director of USBands that stated YEA was nearly $1 million in debt and it is because GH didn't know how to use a simple budget. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/drumcorps/comments/75djf0/the_truth_about_george_hopkins/

 

Some of the comments under that are priceless.  “I don’t even remember what person I was back then”. 

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23 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:

No!  The comments on the article.  I’m sorry.  There are seven horrible comments, one referring to us as twisted band nerds or something like that. 

Holy crap I just read those, almost all are inappropriate.  I'm semi tempted to sign up for an account to flag them.

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1 minute ago, MikeM said:

Holy crap I just read those, almost all are inappropriate.  I'm semi tempted to sign up for an account to flag them.

I thought about it.  Such cruelty. 

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Quote from the Reddit post:

"I do not agree with your business/financial model. YEA! is nearly $1 million in debt and it is because you do not know how to use a simple budget. USBands should have a budget, Performing Ensembles should have a budget. These are simple rules of business. Instead, we fly by the seat of our pants and have our travel credit cards declined while we are on travel because you can’t pay the bills."

 

Things like that are why DCI wants to see the books.

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18 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

Some of the comments under that are priceless.  “I don’t even remember what person I was back then”. 

 Yes, one of the people I was referring to above. , ie an individual that as the former Director of USBands one would assume would have direct knowledge of the YEA financials at the time this was written ( Oct, 2017 ) is stating they are ( his words ) "  nearly 1 million in debt ". Was it true then ? Is it better, worse, now ? Well, thats why DCI HQ is conducting their own financial audit, and why it is not at all unusual for people both here and elsewhere to " speculate " on what DCI might/ will find. The rumor of such possible debt, heard in several quarters, has been out there for at least 6 months. The upcoming  DCI  HQ audit will determine what the true state of their financial situation is, and take all this out of the realm of mere speculation.

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1 hour ago, BRASSO said:

 Sure then... that seems a fair request to me. As such, I don't have a clue on whether or not (  even what some Cadet alums / donors are saying ) about the possible debt situation at YEA/ Cadets here in April 2018 is accurate or not. My reply above was initially to the DCP poster asking us why we think that DCI is  taking the rather unusual step to go and pour over the books and the financials now of YEA/ Cadets as part of their probation terms... DCI says its to be certain they are financially stable enough. Rutherford says they are. I stated above I believe him. I stated there are people stating there is financial debt there here in April 2018. Not sure if thats true, or not, nor if true, the levels of it.' Guess we'll find out soon enough with DCI HQ, audit of their financials. So that what I " think " at the moment on this, HockeyDad.

 What do you think ? Do you think YEA/ Cadets are in some levels of current debt, or in good shape  financially here in April, 2018, HockeyDad  ? And why so  ?

For some reason, the topic of debt doesn't inspire interest from me. Rather, it's  the improprieties of GH and the possibility of collateral damage that's bothering me. 

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