Number of Judged Events - Impact on Finals

[DCIdad]

With some of the weather and illness issues over the last 3 weeks, I was wondering what impact it has (from a finals standpoint) when corps perform fewer judged events than their peers? For example, of those currently projecting to be in the finals, the Mandarins have the fewest judged events (17). On the other end, Bloo have 25 judged events up until this point. Does that help or hurt the two of them from a finals perspective? 

As a novice, I would assume that more judged events is better, but is it as simple as that?

I also noticed that the Mandarins were on the low end of scheduled events to begin with. Is that simply an indicator of their status/resources compared to other world class corps?

Thoughts? 

Following data pulled from frontensemble

Bloo	–	25
Cavies	–	22
Stars	–	22
PR	–	22
Colts	–	22
SCV	–	21
BC	–	21
Cadets	–	21
Troopers	–	21
CC	–	20
SoA	–	20
Scouts	–	20
BD	–	19
BK	–	19
Xmen	–	19
Academy	–	19
Genesis	–	18
Mandarins	–	17
MC	–	17
Pioneer	–	17
PC	–	16
Cascades	–	15
OC	–	13
Surf	–	13

[Jeff Ream]

doesnt seem to be hurting BD. The key is what you do between shows

[BRASSO]

1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said:

doesnt seem to be hurting BD. The key is what you do between shows

 True... Of the TOP 12 Finalists from last season, the Corps with the fewest remaining competitions ( 5 ) in the pivotal month of August this season are the Blue Devils. Some Corps have 40% more competitions remaining.. as many as 8.

 Most seasons, the Blue Devils have less competitions than their peers. One recent season, 3 Corps had 35 competitions. The Blue Devils just 28. The  BD organization really doesn't need the show appearance fees, and they utilize their extra time to make changes in their show,  practice, and for proper rest and recuperation... and be ready and firing on all cylinders come the DCI Championships. Its been their model in the DCI competition season for over 4 decades now.

Edited July 31, 2018 by BRASSO

[Cappybara]

3 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 True... Of the TOP 12 Finalists from last season, the Corps with the fewest remaining competitions ( 5 ) in the pivotal month of August are the Blue Devils. Some Corps have 40% more competitions remaining.. as many as 8.

 Most seasons, the Blue Devils have less competitions than their peers. One season, 3 Corps had 35 competitions. The Blue Devils 28. The  BD organization really doesn't need the show appearance fees, and they utilize their extra time to make changes in their show,  practice, and for proper rest and recuperation... and be ready and firing on all cylinders come Championships. Its been their model in the DCI competition season for over 4 decades.

The MMs at BD woke up at noon today. Rested members = efficient and effective rehearsals!

[Legoman]

So, then the argument swings to considering cutting shows. If there is a definite benefit to having more time between shows, in terms of cost, health, and quality, then should the number of competitions be lowered? As a fan, I know that if there was a show that comes anywhere near me, and DCI decided cut it, I'd be upset at missing out, but I also know that there's a lot that goes into a DCI tour each year. Also factor in the growing issues with housing, busses, and trucks, and we start to see where less may actually wind up being more in the long run.

[mingusmonk]

8 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

doesnt seem to be hurting BD. The key is what you do between shows

 

7 hours ago, Cappybara said:

The MMs at BD woke up at noon today. Rested members = efficient and effective rehearsals!

 

 

Worth noting: BD does not ever top the list of Show Quantity. Is it a West Coast travel thing? Nah. SCV always does more. Make of it what you will.

 

 

[bluesman]

It seems that doing fewer shows means better results... and better scores.  Of course that means fewer opportunities for fans to see watch their favorite corps live.  

[Daave]

Fewer shows also means fewer paydays and for some corps the snowball is already rolling downhill.

[Ghost]

55 minutes ago, bluesman said:

It seems that doing fewer shows means better results... and better scores.  Of course that means fewer opportunities for fans to see watch their favorite corps live.  

I'm thinking winning medals, especially gold, is more important to most of the consistently top corps, than having some fans around the country not seeing them.

[One n Done]

Questions and ramblings...

 1.  Should there be a minimum required show attendance number?  What ticket buyer doesn’t want to see another corps on that night they are able to attend a show?  Certain corps don’t need the appearance fees, but by the same logic should also be able to afford to travel and perform a few more shows than they currently chose to.  Argument:  Choice matters and a corps ability to choose what they want for their members is their right.

2.  Should appearance payout be altered for corps outside the top 6-8 to to receive a higher percentage?  Rehearsal days are a big benefit-more instruction and floor time, to list just a couple.  Corps that depend on gate fees have to travel more, equaling less rehearsal and rest.  With a higher percentage of the gate, at each show, maybe those groups with fewer financial resources might be able to afford 2-3 more rehearsal days over the course of a summer.  Related:  Corps outside the top 6 typically go on earlier at any given show, which already means less rehearsal on show days, and over the summer, unless that corps wakes up earlier (meaning less rest).  Yes, they can attempt to get out of the lot sooner after a show....this plan doesn’t logistically work out all the time.  Argument:  Would a higher percentage of gate incentivize corps with less money to not strengthen their own finances?  And, why should those corps with stronger finances be penalized?

Eagerly awaiting other takes on this.