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I searched for an answer to this, but my search-fu (like kung-fu) failed me.

Other than some minor mathematical details that don't matter when the numbers are added up, the DCI All-Age recaps break out in the same way as DCA sheets:

  • Effect is 50% of score
    • Effect - Visual judge gets 25% of final score
      • 10% visual performance
      • 10% visual design
      • 5% visual communication
    • Effect - Music judge gets 25% of final score
      • 10% music performance
      • 10% music repertoire/composition
      • 5% music communication
  • Visual is 20% of score
    • Visual - Ensemble judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% design
      • 5% excellence/performance
    • Visual - Color Guard judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% composition
      • 5% achievement
  • Music is 30% of score
    • Music - Brass judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% composition
      • 5% excellence/performance
    • Music - Percussion judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% composition
      • 5% excellence/performance
    • Music - Ensemble judge gets 10% of final scores
      • 5% composition
      • 5% excellence

My questions:

  • Are DCI judges scoring All Age corps using DCA sheets, or DCI sheets that break down the same way as DCA sheets but specify different judging criteria?
  • Assuming that DCI judges use DCA sheets to score All Age corps, are "DCI All Age" scores also considered officially to be DCA scores, for historical and seeding purposes?

I expected to find an answer to this here somewhere...if it's been covered, a link to the thread would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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1 minute ago, JimBurnell said:

I searched for an answer to this, but my search-fu (like kung-fu) failed me.

Other than some minor mathematical details that don't matter when the numbers are added up, the DCI All-Age recaps break out in the same way as DCA sheets:

  • Effect is 50% of score
    • Effect - Visual judge gets 25% of final score
      • 10% visual performance
      • 10% visual design
      • 5% visual communication
    • Effect - Music judge gets 25% of final score
      • 10% music performance
      • 10% music repertoire/composition
      • 5% music communication
  • Visual is 20% of score
    • Visual - Ensemble judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% design
      • 5% excellence/performance
    • Visual - Color Guard judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% composition
      • 5% achievement
  • Music is 30% of score
    • Music - Brass judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% composition
      • 5% excellence/performance
    • Music - Percussion judge gets 10% of final score
      • 5% composition
      • 5% excellence/performance
    • Music - Ensemble judge gets 10% of final scores
      • 5% composition
      • 5% excellence

My questions:

  • Are DCI judges scoring All Age corps using DCA sheets, or DCI sheets that break down the same way as DCA sheets but specify different judging criteria?
  • Assuming that DCI judges use DCA sheets to score All Age corps, are "DCI All Age" scores also considered officially to be DCA scores, for historical and seeding purposes?

I expected to find an answer to this here somewhere...if it's been covered, a link to the thread would be appreciated.

Thanks!

they are supposed to use DCA sheets

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45 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

Assuming that DCI judges use DCA sheets to score All Age corps, are "DCI All Age" scores also considered officially to be DCA scores, for historical and seeding purposes?

Ahhhh, no. IIRC, last season Cincinnati Tradition had their DCA appearances rained out and or cancelled through no fault of their own and went on first at prelims by default. They did get numbers at some DCI contests which I don't believe played into the seeding. Jim or Terri Schler would know the precise details.

 

The DCI numbers generally tend to run lower then what a DCA panel would give for that performance. How much lower is a matter of discussion here. :satisfied:

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2 hours ago, BigW said:

Ahhhh, no. IIRC, last season Cincinnati Tradition had their DCA appearances rained out and or cancelled through no fault of their own and went on first at prelims by default. They did get numbers at some DCI contests which I don't believe played into the seeding. Jim or Terri Schler would know the precise details.

 

The DCI numbers generally tend to run lower then what a DCA panel would give for that performance. How much lower is a matter of discussion here. :satisfied:

As long as the corps is being judged on DCA sheets at a DCI sanctioned contest, then that score can be used for prelims seeding if you have not received a score from a DCA sanctioned contest. 

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