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11 hours ago, kdaddy said:

What was the motivation for firing him? They finished in 11th in Mason's last year - I guess Komnick thought they could do better? 

I really haven't looked at the trajectory of Madison's finishes lately. Mason's five year average placement was the best since Sal Salas. 

 

The very next year they finished 8th, which was the best Madison had done since 2005.

But that was the high point of the 2010's.  It was followed by 13th in 2016, then a brief bounce back into finals in 12th in 2017, then last year 16th.

They are currently on-pace to finish 17th this year, assuming none of the open class groups competing in prelims surpass them (not a guarantee).  So I'd say the trend is decidedly downward post-Mason.  Last year's 16th placement was the lowest the corps has finished since *1964*.

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19 hours ago, madisonsmiley said:

Chris Komnick fired Jim Mason. Let that sink in. An egregiously stupid management decision. 

Not really how it went down. Madison hired Mason (and company) for a set amount of years - Maybe 4? to help the Scouts and they did well. It was never meant to be permanent. 

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10 minutes ago, SFZFAN said:

Not really how it went down. Madison hired Mason (and company) for a set amount of years - Maybe 4? to help the Scouts and they did well. It was never meant to be permanent. 

False, the initial contract was 3 years, then was renewed. After 2014, when the corps got 11th, CK used it as an opportunity to get complete control, thus micromanaging the organization into what it is now.

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53 minutes ago, SFZFAN said:

Not really how it went down. Madison hired Mason (and company) for a set amount of years - Maybe 4? to help the Scouts and they did well. It was never meant to be permanent. 

Exactly.  Mason was not interested in being there long term.  It was a 3-4 year project for him.  This is from people that were on that design team during the time. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, geluf said:

The very next year they finished 8th, which was the best Madison had done since 2005.

But that was the high point of the 2010's.  It was followed by 13th in 2016, then a brief bounce back into finals in 12th in 2017, then last year 16th.

They are currently on-pace to finish 17th this year, assuming none of the open class groups competing in prelims surpass them (not a guarantee).  So I'd say the trend is decidedly downward post-Mason.  Last year's 16th placement was the lowest the corps has finished since *1964*.

Average scores suggest Blue Devils B could pass Madison during finals week.  If the scoring trend continues, it would not surprise me.

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4 minutes ago, ndkbass said:

Average scores suggest Blue Devils B could pass Madison during finals week.  If the scoring trend continues, it would not surprise me.

They won't get that chance, will they? No finals week for BDB? 

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4 hours ago, geluf said:

 Last year's 16th placement was the lowest the corps has finished since *1964*.

Ouch!

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1 hour ago, ndkbass said:

Average scores suggest Blue Devils B could pass Madison during finals week.  If the scoring trend continues, it would not surprise me.

Wow...let THAT sink in...wow...

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1 hour ago, ndkbass said:

Average scores suggest Blue Devils B could pass Madison during finals week.  If the scoring trend continues, it would not surprise me.

BDB and SCVC are not going to Indy

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6 hours ago, geluf said:

Last year's 16th placement was the lowest the corps has finished since *1964*.

DCI has only existed since 1972. So to keep it accurate, last year's 16th placement was the lowest the corps has finished since *1972*.

There. That's sounds better doesn't it?? 🙂 

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