Terri Schehr 14,725 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, skevinp said: I've heard 16th is the new 6th. If only I’d known this in 1977. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Ream 16,213 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Nine White Russians said: When is the last time they played Malagueña or anything like it. And how were the past two seasons anything like the past. This year had no resemblance to the Scouts of old. They were trying to look and move "forward" and look what happened.....16th place. I agree, let's tear down and start over, but let's do it top to bottom so we can first hire people that know how to fundraise, manage money well, hire the right kind of people who know how to put together a winning team, put winning as the single focus (what BD has done for 40+ years), then start programming shows that blend high artistry, excellence, and entertainment and you have a winning combination. Quit looking to the past, but also quit trying to be everybody else. Malaga was all over 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Ream 16,213 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 9 hours ago, FlamMan said: The worst thing that any organization can do is to continue to employee under-performing employees...it will destroy an organization. Madison has been doing this for years. The fact that the current Scout regime is still employed is indicative of poor leadership from the Madison BOD. Back up the truck & fire this regime. True but: you need a board board willing to pull the trigger. then you need qualified replacements that can hit the ground running 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GUARDLING 2,727 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: True but: you need a board board willing to pull the trigger. then you need qualified replacements that can hit the ground running YES! And then you need to let them DO THEIR JOBS and not interfere, don't stand in the way because you didn't get Spatz, don't try to undermine because the thinking may be different from 1975 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlamMan 952 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: True but: you need a board board willing to pull the trigger. then you need qualified replacements that can hit the ground running Obviously. If the BOD cant upgrade the leadership team, then they should go ASAP. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyDad 3,592 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, GUARDLING said: YES! And then you need to let them DO THEIR JOBS and not interfere, don't stand in the way because you didn't get Spatz, don't try to undermine because the thinking may be different from 1975 B.S. No one is calling for a 1975 show. No one is "interfering" by calling for accountability after several substandard seasons. No one is not letting them "do their jobs." They failed to do their jobs. And it wasn't due to any post on drum corps planet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madcityscout 366 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, HockeyDad said: B.S. No one is calling for a 1975 show. No one is "interfering" by calling for accountability after several substandard seasons. No one is not letting them "do their jobs." They failed to do their jobs. And it wasn't due to any post on drum corps planet. Considering what they had to deal with, I think they have done a pretty good job of keeping the ship from sinking out of the activity. It will probably be a costume since modern DCI has moved away from uniforms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gantang 69 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Terri Schehr said: If only I’d known this in 1977. Guardsmen? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terri Schehr 14,725 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, Gantang said: Guardsmen? Yes sir! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GUARDLING 2,727 Report post Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, HockeyDad said: B.S. No one is calling for a 1975 show. No one is "interfering" by calling for accountability after several substandard seasons. No one is not letting them "do their jobs." They failed to do their jobs. And it wasn't due to any post on drum corps planet. really? and you know this how....No sir your statement is BS as you call it. There have been plenty of very good people who have gone through the ranks many of them leaving for the same reason SO my question is what stays that runs very good people off. Your statement suggests you are very much close to the situation. So let's compare. MY info. for many many years are the staff, directors, techs and yes even MMs..Yours? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites