BigW Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Rocketman said: I was able to do a little research on this looking at the most recently available 990 data. You will see that, the financial picture in Rockford is NOT comparable to top corps and, in fact, they spent LESS on staff salaries than any other corps in the top 12 (2017) Corps Income Wages BD $3,793,949.00 $1,591,648.00 Vanguard $4,586,872.00 $1,317,704.00 Crown $2,404,773.00 $271,204.00 Cavaliers $1,443,604.00 $243,413.00 Bluecoats $2,073,202.00 $106,897.00 Boston $2,855,336.00 $585,029.00 Cadets $5,533,664.00 $2,188,736.00 Blue Knights $1,644,938.00 $132,522.00 Regiment $1,313,707.00 $98,196.00 Blue Stars $1,318,407.00 $170,721.00 Crossmen $1,279,912.00 $110,435.00 You aren't going to be able to attract and retain top level talent when your staff salaries are less than a tenth what the top corps pay. As they say, 'you get what you pay for'. That would certainly appear to be the case here Now, there are some that may say the Regiment does more with less. Yeah, not buying it! It is evident that Rockford cannot support the corps financially and as I have said elsewhere, it is time to consider options including moving the corps to a more financially desirable/stable location. This should include another state! Holy cow. I make about half that staff budget chucking boxes around and onto belts. They couldn't afford me as a Bari tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, BigW said: Holy cow. I make about half that staff budget chucking boxes around and onto belts. They couldn't afford me as a Bari tech. So, now you see the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatbrassboy Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Sutasaurus said: Thank you for that info. Perhaps those who feel the design staff needs replacing should earmark their monetary donations “design staff budget” use only. Send money, send good ideas, not complaints. I like this idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said: Educational programs are generally quite appealing to donors -- often more so than artistic programs. Phantom may be getting donations/grants that are restricted for such purposes, or they may be getting donations to support general operating that they would not get if they didn't offer educational programs. It appears these programs do not generate enough donor revenue to keep the corps competitive. If the donations are restricted for the educational programs, perhaps those need to be spun off under a separate umbrella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketman Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Sutasaurus said: Thank you for that info. Perhaps those who feel the design staff needs replacing should earmark their monetary donations “design staff budget” use only. Send money, send good ideas, not complaints. Dave, Sadly, I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way and, how could it be verified? As you and I discussed, it may be time for more drastic changes including relocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrk Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Rocketman said: You aren't going to be able to attract and retain top level talent when your staff salaries are less than a tenth what the top corps pay. According to the numbers you posted, Bluecoats appear to refute your hypothesis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Sutasaurus said: I’m feel embarrassed for you as a fellow alum. There is no denying change needs to happen @ Regiment, Continental is one of the first people to address that. Why are you beating up on him/her? Calling people deniers? Is it because we view things a little differently than you? This kind of tribalism is so ###### unproductive and disgusting. Didn’t you learn how to work together with your fellow MMs when you marched? What happened to that life lesson? I've had harder hits from a 3 year old with a Nerf bat. Some fail to understand that the corps was better this year than the past several. Corps above them have also improved hence the 12th position. The days of a 1987-style bounce back are gone unless you acquire an entire staff from another corps. Its going to take many years to be back where they were. Continually starting at '0' with new staff is not the answer. Some of you are going to have to be patient with Phantom's rise up the ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 12 hours ago, EricS said: Pitts' facebook comment is exactly what anyone would expect. From a friend who was in PR with him it is exactly what I would expect. He has a pronounced air of self imposed importance that he thinks is unquestionable. Comments like this make me laugh. The old "I know people who don't like him/her" argument. I'm sure if we were to interview the people around you, there would be a few who would say the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigW Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Rocketman said: So, now you see the problem! I've seen this in HS circles. Loaded question and I don't know the answer: Are they doing this by getting in alumni and then kind of conniving them to take the lower pay as a way to pay back the corps for what they got out of it? I saw that happening in one particular instance where a Catholic School basically took two of their alumni and wrenched their arms to work for peanuts for years. Fast food money for full time jobs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamahoNow Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Rocketman said: I was able to do a little research on this looking at the most recently available 990 data. You will see that, the financial picture in Rockford is NOT comparable to top corps and, in fact, they spent LESS on staff salaries than any other corps in the top 12 (2017) Corps Income Wages BD $3,793,949.00 $1,591,648.00 Vanguard $4,586,872.00 $1,317,704.00 Crown $2,404,773.00 $271,204.00 Cavaliers $1,443,604.00 $243,413.00 Bluecoats $2,073,202.00 $106,897.00 Boston $2,855,336.00 $585,029.00 Cadets $5,533,664.00 $2,188,736.00 Blue Knights $1,644,938.00 $132,522.00 Regiment $1,313,707.00 $98,196.00 Blue Stars $1,318,407.00 $170,721.00 Crossmen $1,279,912.00 $110,435.00 You aren't going to be able to attract and retain top level talent when your staff salaries are less than a tenth what the top corps pay. As they say, 'you get what you pay for'. That would certainly appear to be the case here Now, there are some that may say the Regiment does more with less. Yeah, not buying it! It is evident that Rockford cannot support the corps financially and as I have said elsewhere, it is time to consider options including moving the corps to a more financially desirable/stable location. This should include another state! Did you notice that Bluecoats only spent 8-9K more than Regiment? They seem to attract and retain top level talent. The three with multi-million wages also have other endeavors that fall into the wages category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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