cixelsyd Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, crownisking said: A few individuals may have gone too far with some of the things said but please don’t “demonize” the entire Crown fan base because most of us have been plenty supportive of BAC. I rarely even defend Crown anymore for fear of being labeled a homer but I could do without the animosity thrown our way. To be perfectly clear, no, I don’t like the way the whole situation went down but it’s never stopped me from cheering on BAC or going to their rehearsals when they come to town. I’m sure most other Crown supporters feel the same way. At the end of the day, most of us are fans of the activity first. Agreed, and edited my post to clarify. Never meant to imply that all fans of Crown or Cadets think like the several who posted their criticisms here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Glenn426 said: But the Big three kept the C's to only one championship during the Garnett, Pierce, Rondo era so it evens out a little bit.. But the previous Big Three did better. Bird, Parish, and McHale. I won't bore you with the various Big Three/Five combinations back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Edited June 17, 2019 by Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Terri Schehr Posted June 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2019 I like the Boston fan base. They’re honest: they want to be champions. They’re protective of their corps. They did put up with a lot of flak two years ago, which was kind of silly. These staff members are free to seek employment where they please. They weren't tethered for life to any particular organization. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpwithanS Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Cappybara said: Tell me why Boston fans are so ridiculously defensive on DCP? Good lord. Bitter over what exactly? Generalizations are kind of weak and cheesy. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craiga Posted June 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2019 You know, I read this earlier (about the BAC fan base) and I have a slightly different perspective. While there definitely was a healthy portion of sour grapes hurled at our organization during the staff changes prior to the 2017 season, I think there is more to it. The Boston Crusaders are in their 79th year of existence, despite some very lean times. I can think of at least 4 times where the drum corps was virtually days away from folding but did not. (1957, 1973, 1983, 1998) For those of us who have been around the corps for years, our survival is nothing short of miraculous. Our entrance (finally) into the top 12 in 1999 was a game changer for all of us. And, remaining a finalist for 20 years in a row is something to behold. In 1983 the entire drum corps consisted of 51 members, an all volunteer staff and sleeping on the grass at Allentown because we had no housing. To go from those trials to now have a multimillion dollar nonprofit serving nearly 20,000 kids in various programs is mindboggling. I do think top three this year is quite possible..and a championship may not be far away. However, in the minds of many of us BAC supporters, we have already won. We are just waiting (patiently) for that final recognition. That's where the passion comes from. 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LabMaster Posted June 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Cappybara said: Tell me why Boston fans are so ridiculously defensive on DCP? Good lord. Bitter over what exactly? The reason Boston fans and Boston alums are "ridiculously defensive" is because over the years (many years) they did whatever they had to do to survive. There were many times they could have packed it up and been a memory like so many other corps. They suffered through poor management, no management, low membership numbers, no money, on and on. Unless you were there for the many years of struggle, you can't really know the extent of the struggle to simply stay alive. The turmoil at times, no money, no organization structure and support, the scrambling to go day to day, hand to mouth. Many people may not realize that up until the more recent years, all instructional staff, management, and assorted volunteers were actually ALL volunteers. No one was getting paid. They stuck around for the love of the corps. For years. They competed against corps with lots of money and lots of support. They kept working and grinding and after many years of that, they finally made it. But it really wasn't until a short few years ago were they finally in the position, had finally built a strong base, financially and administratively, to make the move to be equally competitive with the groups that had been much more fortunate over they years than they. Boston had put a lot of work in to get where they are right now. Until you have marched in their shoes, you can't understand the depths of the effort. When they were vilified for doing exactly what many other corps had done, and many had done this before them, they fell back on their survival instincts to make it clear they would not accept any $#^%# from anyone about what they put in motion to Build A Champion. They had to prove they were not the insignificant corps other corps thought they were, because they were not competitive with them. Once they became competitive, and now that they are, there is still a residual sense from other corps that they aren't as elite as they are and don't belong. There may be perceived chip on Boston's shoulders, and maybe there is. But that is what fuels their desire and drive to be a Champion. And not just to be a Champion but to be a Champion once again. For those who cannot look back pre-DCI era, there was drum corps before then and Boston WAS a National Champion. Long before others became one. To be clear, there is no inferiority complex at play here. There is a unified confidence they are on the right path to be competitive with other corps and org's., and to prove they are where they are supposed to be. This year is important because it is the 3rd year of the plan. They are just now hitting their stride. They will be successful and they will be humble once they achieve their goals. They will be so because they know what it has take to get back. There is tremendous appreciation of the leadership, the BOD, the instructional staff, the volunteers, the level of quality built throughout the entire organization. And along with that is the experience they strive to deliver to each years MM's. I hope this explains a little about why they are ridiculously defensive. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Cappybara said: Tell me why Boston fans are so ridiculously defensive on DCP? Good lord. Bitter over what exactly? poppycock 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Well I’d personally put the Boston fan base in the DCI top five Most I’ve encountered throughout the decades and recently have been fun, fair and realistic 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3D Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Cappybara said: Tell me why Boston fans are so ridiculously defensive on DCP? Good lord. Bitter over what exactly? I am a fan, and I marched. That does give my takes/posts an edge no doubt. I thought your "enlightened" opinion on cheese was taking a shot. So I took my shot with an "enlightened" opinion of your post - specifically your cheese. obviously YMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, craiga said: I can think of at least 4 times where the drum corps was virtually days away from folding but did not. (1957, 1973, 1983, 1998) I was not aware of such a situation in 1998. What happened, and how did they recover so effectively? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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