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5 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

now Troop needs to be sure they have the people to clean it

First the Troopers need to recruit members.  For Percussion  auditions Nov 23 -Nov 25 and Dec 14-16 at Poteet High School, Mesquite TX.  (You are required to provide your own housing, transportation and meals for these audition events)  This is unheard of in the activity. Brass auditions are in Cheyenne which will be difficult  for potential members to attend.  Troopers recruitment area shrinks to a small area not known for supplying marching members.  The untold story of the 2018 season was how noncompetitive the Troopers were.  Fred deserved to be fired.   New team has a tremendous task ahead of them. 

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2 hours ago, dcifanforlife said:

First the Troopers need to recruit members. 

You might be right, but the number of auditions and restrictions may have potential mm looking elsewhere.  

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3 hours ago, dcifanforlife said:

First the Troopers need to recruit members.  For Percussion  auditions Nov 23 -Nov 25 and Dec 14-16 at Poteet High School, Mesquite TX.  (You are required to provide your own housing, transportation and meals for these audition events)  This is unheard of in the activity. Brass auditions are in Cheyenne which will be difficult  for potential members to attend.  Troopers recruitment area shrinks to a small area not known for supplying marching members.  The untold story of the 2018 season was how noncompetitive the Troopers were.  Fred deserved to be fired.   New team has a tremendous task ahead of them. 

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Having to provide one's own housing for auditions plus transportation and food is not unheard of in the activity.

For years Regiment members at auditions and some camps were released for a time to walk into town and buy their own meals; great bonding time among mms according to many. Recent faculties noted the lost practice time and the current process is different.

The Colts had a deal with Hampton Inn where auditionees paid for their own rooms. This went on for several seasons.

BD has mms arrange and pay for their own housing during ST and I'm told, some camps at times. This is still the current practice, no pun intended.

As early as SCV's time under G. Royer and as late as 2005, the corps made arrangement with local motels who charged auditionees discounted rates.

Many corps having out of town auditions follow this practice of auditionees paying for housing; this is true especially recently as schools are loathe to allow overnight stays particularly to groups who aren't local or who have almost no relationship to the school district. Cadets for a few seasons of Texas auditions used a mega-church's auditorium and participants slept elsewhere.

 

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4 hours ago, dcifanforlife said:

First the Troopers need to recruit members.  For Percussion  auditions Nov 23 -Nov 25 and Dec 14-16 at Poteet High School, Mesquite TX.  (You are required to provide your own housing, transportation and meals for these audition events)  This is unheard of in the activity. Brass auditions are in Cheyenne which will be difficult  for potential members to attend.  Troopers recruitment area shrinks to a small area not known for supplying marching members.  The untold story of the 2018 season was how noncompetitive the Troopers were.  Fred deserved to be fired.   New team has a tremendous task ahead of them. 

There is the subjectivity of defining competitive, I suppose; but their average finish since coming back in 2007 is 15th.  And, I had no idea Fred had been fired or that it was deserved.  One usually isn't fired and it is publicly released that they are still with the corps, albeit in another role.  Interesting.

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2 hours ago, xandandl said:

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Having to provide one's own housing for auditions plus transportation and food is not unheard of in the activity.

For years Regiment members at auditions and some camps were released for a time to walk into town and buy their own meals; great bonding time among mms according to many. Recent faculties noted the lost practice time and the current process is different.

The Colts had a deal with Hampton Inn where auditionees paid for their own rooms. This went on for several seasons.

BD has mms arrange and pay for their own housing during ST and I'm told, some camps at times. This is still the current practice, no pun intended.

As early as SCV's time under G. Royer and as late as 2005, the corps made arrangement with local motels who charged auditionees discounted rates.

Many corps having out of town auditions follow this practice of auditionees paying for housing; this is true especially recently as schools are loathe to allow overnight stays particularly to groups who aren't local or who have almost no relationship to the school district. Cadets for a few seasons of Texas auditions used a mega-church's auditorium and participants slept elsewhere.

 

 Boston Crusaders now have current staffers and/ or alums that are employed at their schools/ colleges that they have most of their auditions and move ins at, so currently they are able to provide transportation. housing, and the feeding of their auditioneers/ marchers. Boston has busses that pick up and return the auditioneers at airports, and also alums/ long time volunteers make airport trips to and and fro audition/ move in sites.  Last season, Boston was able to secure ( and pay for ) the Univ. of Castleton's Dining Services Div. for the feeding of its marchers at May Move ins.  It wasn't always this way at Boston though. Some years .. in the 70's/ 80's... the Corps basically did what it had to do to just survive some seasons, including transportation in their own cars long distance sometimes by mm's to summer competitions, sleeping in those cars, or out under the stars at shows, and feeding themselves pretty much all the time, summer tours included, for awhile there.

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27 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 Boston Crusaders now have current staffers and/ or alums that are employed at their schools/ colleges that they have most of their auditions and move ins at, so currently they are able to provide transportation. housing, and the feeding of their auditioneers/ marchers. Boston has busses that pick up and return the auditioneers at airports, and also alums/ long time volunteers make airport trips to and and fro audition/ move in sites.  Last season, Boston was able to secure ( and pay for ) the Univ. of Castleton's Dining Services Div. for the feeding of its marchers at May Move ins.  It wasn't always this way at Boston though. Some years .. in the 70's/ 80's... the Corps basically did what it had to do to just survive some seasons, including transportation in cars  long distance sometimes by mm's to summer competitions, sleeping in those cars, or out under the stars at shows, and feeding themselves pretty much all the time, summer tours included, for awhile there.

Yes times have changed for most corps as they have gone more international.

The highlighted quote above is what MOST current DCI corps do. Carolina Crown at Gardner-Webb College for ST and Phantom Regiment when they use Rockford College facilities also make use of the summer college cafeteria's for feeding folks. Sometimes when corps use college facilities, union pacts with the universities mandate that all feeding be done via union staffed facilities. Many factors to consider and make tour directors' hair grey.

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26 minutes ago, xandandl said:

Yes times have changed for most corps as they have gone more international.

The highlighted quote above is what MOST current DCI corps do. 

 True. I merely pointed out what one particular DCI Corps does now ( that I'm familiar with ). As I'm sure you're aware X, not all, nor even most, DCI Corps in World Class/ Open Class operate the same when it comes to Transportation,. Housing, Feeding. Safety, Touring, Fund Raising, Tuition, etc issues. Not BITD.....  and not now either.

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1 hour ago, 2muchcoffeeman said:

All right, let's just squash this unfounded, fictional invention of the mind like the insect that it is. Fred was not fired. Period. Any suggestion that he was, is a slander. By the way, the signups for the first audition camp are coming in just fine, thank you.

You know, the Troopers could hand out $100 bills to fans at every show, and someone would find a reason to criticize them. For several seasons they ran all their camps out of Dallas and several other non-Wyoming locations, and they got roasted for not being Wyoming enough. Now they hold camps in their own state and they get roasted for being, you know, Wyoming, which apparently no one is able to find without a Sherpa. For goodness' sake, Cheyenne is a 2-hour bus ride from Denver International Airport, which sits smack in the center of the North American Continent. I mean, you can't find a major airport that is more geographically centered than Denver. They know about buses in Wyoming. They have running water, too. Kids who go to BD camps have to fly into SFO, then ride BART -- by themselves -- for 1 1/2 hours to get to Concord. Then they have to Uber themselves and their bags to the hotel, and then carpool/taxi their way to the audition site. At least with Troopers, you meet the bus at the curb at DIA, climb on with a bunch of other Trooper hopefuls, and it takes you directly to the rehearsal site. And back. I fail to see how that is somehow more "difficult for members to attend" than any other audition camp.

 

 

 

well said.

If there forebears conquered the West, these mms will find a rehearsal site. :-)

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18 hours ago, Jason Harrison said:

Also see the Rennick’s with the Troopers. Are they doing double duty or is SCV looking for another lead design position.

IIRC, Troopers have had Rennick percussion charts for six years now.

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