chris ncsu Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, FTNK said: Cadets guard design was really cool and added a lot to the show in 2005, but then they just... decided not to do that anymore They were a great part of Angels and Demons, but maybe not at the level of sophistication of The Zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, FTNK said: That 2010 show came from the vis staff and was totally clusterf’d by GH and then said staff left That visual program was the bomb genius drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ranintothedoor Posted August 1, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 Saw Cadets in Annapolis. Took my band kids to watch ensemble rehearsal beforehand. Just sharing some thoughts: I think the tonal shift at the "Do Better" section is very abrupt and a missed opportunity considering the serious tone during the first half of the show. The overthrowing of the queen, the resulting tribal factions (and actually resonates very well given the current political climate)... it's very well done. But the need for reconciliation within the queen's former kingdom that Cadets clearly demonstrate at the end of the second movement is abandoned... the literal approach of a queen being overthrown undercuts the symbolic intent of the show about men treating women with respect. For instance, the XY formation, which is definitely necessary to get the point across, was jolting because up until then I thought I was watching a show about a queen being overthrown by her subjects... but now suddenly that was MY fault? Again, I get it, but they went too literal before going symbolic and therefore did not communicate the intent well enough. Anyway, the main reason I'm posting, in case any staff member cares for the recruiting report of a former Cadet band director, is that several of my kids who want the DCI experience were not persuaded to do Cadets this week (despite my best efforts) but want, rather, to audition either at Crown or Jersey Surf (we live in Virginia). For several kids, 2019 Cadets was their favorite show, but many more of them preferred the Seattle Cascades and Jersey Surf. The show oftentimes is the corps' audition for the hearts and minds of future members. Many don't care about winning; they just want to march at a place they love. I think Madison Scouts, as hard as it is to swallow their current scoring, took a good tactic this year in going for a more traditional design for the sole purpose of, as Chuck Naffier's posts indicate, having the audience reaction "wash over" the young kids. I even had a parent (his talented kid will probably one day march DCI) mentioned how different this Cadets was from last year's corps. He said he loved how the sustained drill and music passages from last year were so unique compared with everyone else's production style; it really stood out (zig vs. zag, right?). This guy loves rock bands and repairs HVAC units for a living... not an artsy guy, just appreciates what these kids do. They bought souvies from the Cavaliers' tent, btw. I'm not saying to abandon everything and "restart"/"restructure". Please no. This show, if they can figure out timing issues and let those kids shine could finish solid. For instance, the percussion feature feels rushed... I couldn't figure out how/when to clap for the amazing tenor feature... it's staged well, performed great, but for whatever reason I had trouble giving them a response. These Cadets kids are just awesome. IMO, keep the staff together and try again, taking the lessons they've learned and improve. But I'd suggest not 'playing the game' next year, which is what the second half of the show seemed to be. Too long... sorry! 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcikon2 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 On 7/12/2019 at 7:08 PM, Guitar1974 said: 26 minutes ago, ranintothedoor said: For several kids, 2019 Cadets was their favorite show, but many more of them preferred the Seattle Cascades and Jersey Surf. You stated your feelings about the show in a great way. This show is difficult to reach many people. In fact, it may be one of my least favorite Cadets shows of all time. I do hope the Cadets have a show next year that reaches the crowd and future recruits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTNK Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 The many poor shows in the last several years have put potential members off. I commented in 2017 that the opinions of many younger recent drum corps age outs and current members was "Oh, Cadets used to be good." I was attacked relentlessly but you can't deny that they don't get the majority of kids excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East9900 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 It goes to show how much impact a poor show design truly has on a corps. It doesn't just hurt the corps this year. They are going to have to make some massive changes next year in the staff or else they are going to be feeling the sting for years. It really hurts because last year was such a positive step. I would never have guessed that this year would have turned out like this. I had questions about certain staff positions but thought they would improve, not digress. As a brass player, I'm disappointed in the staff's ability to make these performers better and clean the music. I'm not even a staff member of a corps and things I've heard a month ago are still there and still not fixed. I just do not get it. Hopefully they can do what they can to bring an elite staff to this corps or else I fear they'll be at the bottom half of finals yet again next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 5:03 PM, Tommeee said: Little Geoffrey went to BD? I hadn’t heard that before, but that’s definitely a good piece of trivia! On 7/31/2019 at 5:07 PM, George Dixon said: And Cadets won On 7/31/2019 at 5:11 PM, Terri Schehr said: I love when that happens. On 7/31/2019 at 5:35 PM, Terri Schehr said: I saw it happen a few times when I was marching. That was even better. Reminds me of this dude I marched with in 1999 who went to BD in 2000....then we won (well, tied). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East9900 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 8 hours ago, 2000Cadet said: Reminds me of this dude I marched with in 1999 who went to BD in 2000....then we won (well, tied). I don't think I knew about the BD one, but I specifically remember marching with a mello player in 99 that went to SCV in 2000. I can't speak for either, but I kind of understand their decision a little after how rough '99 was. I know I would have been kicking myself had I done the same. For those of us that remained loyal, it certainly paid off. I don't even mean by winning: that show was so much fun to perform and the attitude of the corps and the summer in general was about as different as they get. Also goes to show how much of a difference show design can have on a group of performers and their mental state. I truly feel for this year's corps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, East9900 said: I don't think I knew about the BD one, but I specifically remember marching with a mello player in 99 that went to SCV in 2000. I can't speak for either, but I kind of understand their decision a little after how rough '99 was. I know I would have been kicking myself had I done the same. For those of us that remained loyal, it certainly paid off. I don't even mean by winning: that show was so much fun to perform and the attitude of the corps and the summer in general was about as different as they get. Also goes to show how much of a difference show design can have on a group of performers and their mental state. I truly feel for this year's corps. Actually, you're right. It was SCV. And I have no idea who you are and that we even marched together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East9900 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2000Cadet said: Actually, you're right. It was SCV. And I have no idea who you are and that we even marched together. Yea ya do. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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