What rule would you propose for the 2019 DCI tour?

[Ghost]

5 hours ago, George Dixon said:

uh no, the current "field judges" would be on the front sidelines, just not ON the field 

Then the weaker lines will have drill written so they are hidden for most of the show with not much time close to the side line.  It seems to me that it would be hard to hear how clean a line is from 30 yards away.  If this would become a change, then mic each percussion member and have the sound transmitted to the BOSE headset the judge will be wearing. But, can you imagine a judge trying to make sense of around 19 players?

[George Dixon]

48 minutes ago, Ghost said:

Then the weaker lines will have drill written so they are hidden for most of the show with not much time close to the side line.  It seems to me that it would be hard to hear how clean a line is from 30 yards away.  If this would become a change, then mic each percussion member and have the sound transmitted to the BOSE headset the judge will be wearing. But, can you imagine a judge trying to make sense of around 19 players?

and then lines that don't have their features staged "down front" would lose GE points - just as they do now

corps already hide stuff in a variety of ways via drill, props, "judge blockers" (the low wall with graphics on the front yard lines), guard staged and moving around the drumline during features etc...

the thing is all would be judged by the same set of rules

[George Dixon]

6 hours ago, xandandl said:

Oh sure, add to Tony DiCarlo's responsibilities why don't you? What happens if a judge goes over the front sidelines?  Will the score be nullified, penalized or a large electronic buzzer go off and the lights at LOS start flashing?

Front sidelines are already too congested with the sound techs; wires for the mikes and front ensemble; Santa Clara/Regiment and others marching closer to the audience; Josh Clements and press corps trying to take that "perfect" photo; multi podiums for the conductors/drum majors; and the other judges who already use the track for judging ensemble sound, T&P, etc.  Ask any pit person, that area is already way too crowded.  Besides vertically challenged judges (like me) who are never be able to see over those "judge blockers" the guard uses to hide their fifteen sets of flags and to change into their new costumes for every third movement of a song would now have to climb the drum major's podium to see five feet in. It may not be ADA compliant.

There's a wisdom of the ages of how and why certain things came to be.  Not every change is for the better.

 

the days of field judges should have been long over - IMHO

[bluesman]

8 hours ago, xandandl said:

Oh sure, add to Tony DiCarlo's responsibilities why don't you? What happens if a judge goes over the front sidelines?  Will the score be nullified, penalized or a large electronic buzzer go off and the lights at LOS start flashing?

Front sidelines are already too congested with the sound techs; wires for the mikes and front ensemble; Santa Clara/Regiment and others marching closer to the audience; Josh Clements and press corps trying to take that "perfect" photo; multi podiums for the conductors/drum majors; and the other judges who already use the track for judging ensemble sound, T&P, etc.  Ask any pit person, that area is already way too crowded.  Besides vertically challenged judges (like me) who are never be able to see over those "judge blockers" the guard uses to hide their fifteen sets of flags and to change into their new costumes for every third movement of a song would now have to climb the drum major's podium to see five feet in. It may not be ADA compliant.

There's a wisdom of the ages of how and why certain things came to be.  Not every change is for the better.

 

Yes the front sidelines are crowded.  The horn-line is in the pit. Some of the pit is still in the pit.   Is there anything else that we can cram into that area that does not require the use of Vaseline?

Visual designers claimed they needed more space, so they annexed the pit.  And what we got was a whole lot of unused field.   

[Ghost]

3 hours ago, George Dixon said:

 the thing is all would be judged by the same set of rules

Are you implying G that some lines are not currently being judged by the same set of rules?  I'll need a lot of percussionists to convince me that a competent field judge can hear/see differences between corps as to difficulty and execution, through all the mm and stuff on the field, from 30-50 yards away.

[xandandl]

Hopkins was a big proponent of pulling the judges off the field. He was turned down at DCI a few times. Refer to those threads and discussions.

[cixelsyd]

15 hours ago, George Dixon said:

corps already hide stuff in a variety of ways via drill, props, "judge blockers" (the low wall with graphics on the front yard lines), guard staged and moving around the drumline during features etc...

How can those be "judge blockers" when they are only 4 feet high?  

[xandandl]

4 hours ago, cixelsyd said:

How can those be "judge blockers" when they are only 4 feet high?  

some judges are short sighted.

[George Dixon]

8 hours ago, cixelsyd said:

How can those be "judge blockers" when they are only 4 feet high?  

_{meaning they have to walk around them}

[IllianaLancerContra]

The number of trombones in a show cannot exceed the number of cymbals marched by the battery.