Just A Thought!

[JimF-LowBari]

4 minutes ago, leanlion said:

Simple one would be DCI open class corps competing heads up against DCA corps when the opportunity presents itself during the course of the season. Use DCA sheets and judges. Have show sanctioned by DCA and see where it take you. This would be nothing more than testing the waters but a start.  

And then you hit the brick wall that is the big difference between DCA and world class DCI which is practice time. Also DCAs championships being 2 weeks later than DCIs so All Ages looking to peak at a different time. No matter when you have a combined championship it’s going to hurt one group more than the other 

[leanlion]

8 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:

And then you hit the brick wall that is the big difference between DCA and world class DCI which is practice time. Also DCAs championships being 2 weeks later than DCIs so All Ages looking to peak at a different time. No matter when you have a combined championship it’s going to hurt one group more than the other 

 

[jimpjorps]

I'm starting to think it's time to start ending DCA's season sooner, too.  Even one week earlier would help resolve the situation that's developing lately where high school marching bands are required to have a halftime show ready to go on Labor Day weekend for the football season opening game in "Week 0", as well as college move-ins and a whole bunch of other conflicts.

Edited September 6, 2018 by jimpjorps

[leanlion]

1 minute ago, leanlion said:

13 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:

And then you hit the brick wall that is the big difference between DCA and world class DCI which is practice time. Also DCAs championships being 2 weeks later than DCIs so All Ages looking to peak at a different time. No matter when you have a combined championship it’s going to hurt one group more than the other 

I'm asking for a standard show in the late june to early august period. no championship involved. might be time to smell the roses.

 

[JimF-LowBari]

Given the practice time if nothing else DCI corps would have the edge and in general get the higher score. Not sure why we would need a head to head to compare the apples and oranges.

[BigW]

48 minutes ago, leanlion said:

Simple one would be DCI open class corps competing heads up against DCA corps when the opportunity presents itself during the course of the season. Use DCA sheets and judges. Have show sanctioned by DCA and see where it take you. This would be nothing more than testing the waters but a start.  

Why? The expectations of DCA are utterly different from the DCI sheets. DCA favors effect heavily and 'entertainment' (define that how one wills)... DCI favors cutting edge forward thinking design, stellar performance quality and insane challenge. It's like wanting a NASCAR car to race against F1. We all know the outcome. We all know what one does better than the other already. DCI OC stopped using special sheets for OC a couple of years back. I frankly see no sense of the DCI OC with totally different purposes to exist and designing to a totally different rubric and outcome going head to head with a DCA corps- sorry.

 

Similar to some of the early 70's Questor Grand Prix where Formula One met Indy racing...really didn't prove much that wasn't already known.

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by BigW

[BigW]

1 hour ago, CHRISP said:

Sunrisers were approved by DCI and performed in Cranston, RI

Okies! Cool! Add another corps.

[leanlion]

2 minutes ago, BigW said:

Why? The expectations of DCA are utterly different from the DCI sheets. DCI OC stopped using special sheets a couple of years back. I frankly see no sense of the DCI OC with totally different purposes to exist going head to head- sorry.

Why? Separation will not help DCA see the future. As an organization they are failing themselves. My proposal is just a "why not" deal. The world will not come to an end.

[Jeff Ream]

2 hours ago, Fran Haring said:

Agree!!!

Remembering the days, not too many years ago, when DCI's mantra on the broadcast regarding ageouts was "now that your drum corps career is over..."  No mention at all of an all-age alternative for those wishing to continue. And then there was the hatchet-job "feature" on senior/all-age corps, circa 1988-89. Yikes.

Times have changed, much for the better.  I still hear some knucklehead comments from folks who don't know better... but should... that DCA is not worth a look, but those comments do not come from the DCI home office. 

yeah it's not like Dan and Allen are tyrants that insist on controlling everything and can't play nice with others. DCI and DCA have, under first Gil and now Allen for DCA, that the two sides have mutual interests. It really started to bloom when DCM folded. Working together had to happen to help both places when need be, and they seem to be doing it well. Sure corps in the outer regions need to be DCI affiliate members to get scores at DCI shows, but several of the judges work both places, so it's not that big of a deal, and it's helped both circuits out. 

 

Now if someone on either side became a tyrant, well, that's a different story. trust me, DCI's old "drum corps ends at 21 mantra didn't help, but there was plenty of DCI bashing coming from DCA folks too. Thankfully those days are gone.

[BigW]

Just now, leanlion said:

Why? Separation will not help DCA see the future. As an organization they are failing themselves. My proposal is just a "why not" deal. The world will not come to an end.

It's fitting your axe to grind. You have to do better in terms of your vision. Right now... all you appear to do is want to humiliate people and show a DCI-centrist snobbery. What's the end outcome? Be clear. Be specific.