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4 hours ago, Lance said:

there is no context in which this would be acceptable. not for high school students participating in school-related activity. 

sorry. 

Yup. Had an uncomfortable moment several years ago with an indoor show about chasing a girl thru an urban park.  A little too real 

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 I recall a number of shows that attempt to portrait a social message or sentiment, H.S. college or DC. (James Logan, Suncoast Sound, Cavies, and my personal fav. STANFORD CARDINALS MARCHING BAND) I would be interested in the full story and how the marching members view the show  "message". If the band and staff have dialogue and the kids feel empowered to speak about social issues I see it as a win. JUST perhaps this was social commentary to provoke, and if so, the current political/social climate has much food for fodder. The picture of this guard indicates a story being told, clarity aside. Those of you with your "holier than thou' attitude remember it's marching arts and if you don't like it go get a hot dog. Jesus save us from the Mississippi Spitter...

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2 hours ago, whitedj2002 said:

 Those of you with your "holier than thou' attitude remember it's marching arts and if you don't like it go get a hot dog. 

My holier than thou attitude comes from family tragedy and I stand by it. And yes it is just marching arts so means little compared to real life. IOW why present something so tragic or painful for the sake of “art” or try to get a trophy that will collect dust in a case somewhere.

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12 hours ago, MikeD said:

The very design process that includes using fake guns pointing at people is just ridiculous in this day and age. No possible excuse for this, IMO.

Ya pretty much my thought process on this.  There is so much that can be uplifting.  If someone can't think or live in reality they shouldn't be teaching.

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2 hours ago, whitedj2002 said:

 I recall a number of shows that attempt to portrait a social message or sentiment, H.S. college or DC. (James Logan, Suncoast Sound, Cavies, and my personal fav. STANFORD CARDINALS MARCHING BAND) I would be interested in the full story and how the marching members view the show  "message". If the band and staff have dialogue and the kids feel empowered to speak about social issues I see it as a win. JUST perhaps this was social commentary to provoke, and if so, the current political/social climate has much food for fodder. The picture of this guard indicates a story being told, clarity aside. Those of you with your "holier than thou' attitude remember it's marching arts and if you don't like it go get a hot dog. Jesus save us from the Mississippi Spitter...

"Dialogue" between staff and members is not the point. What about the people who come to a game or competition who are not part of any such dialogue. Armed depictions such as this are just never appropriate in this type of setting. You end up with what you have...a large national incident.

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Some just never learn when it’s not appropriate to get into political statements...and when you do keep it classy and subtle.  Lady Gaga at the super bowl covering This Land is Your Land is a perfect example.

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2 hours ago, Sideways said:

Some just never learn when it’s not appropriate to get into political statements...and when you do keep it classy and subtle.  Lady Gaga at the super bowl covering This Land is Your Land is a perfect example.

You mean that socialist song lol... Never though I was being political when we sang it in elementary school. Wiki the song if you don't know the background of WGs classic.

And to follow up the "holier than thou" comment above. Sounds like whitedj2002 is saying opinions that disagree with his/hers are wrong and he/she knows better. Pot calling kettle black saying others are acting holier.....

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This may require a separate topic, but...what drum corps show do you recall being "controversial?" Maybe I haven't given this enough thought, but I can list three instances:

  • 1970 Garfield Cadets where the corps formed a peace sign on the field. Corps director said it was the trademark for Mercedes Benz. 
  • 1980 27th Lancers - Their show was exactly the same of their 1979 show. There was a lot of talk about the corps taking an easy approach to perfect the'79 show. 
  • 1980 Bridgemen - Not really controversial, but odd: following their final's performance, the corps stripped down to Alabama/Auburn jerseys and did a football scrimmage.  They were booed off the field. 

Am I missing any others? Hopefully, we will not see social justice themes in corps shows going forward. 

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