ohbaby Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Lance said: blame music ripping software and napster seriously with all of that file sharing and pirating, composers, artists, and studios took huge financial hits, and this is one of the ways that they try to compensate for that it wasn't like this back when we dinosaurs were making mixtapes for each other if anything, i see sync and mechanical rights becoming more draconian on a side note, i was reading something about the filming of reality shows last week, and found out that contestants will oftentimes start singing top 40 hits if they don't want what they're doing to get put on the air I do not think it is the file sharing issue as that has decreased a ton since streaming has been out the past 4-5 years. And really, do they care about a small activity such as BOA and DCI, I doubt it. It comes down to greed (record companies) and arrangement issues and that is it. They are not losing any more money than they ever had, ..............look at Justin Timberlake, he is worth $230 million dollars, you think he cares if Bluecoats do a Timberlake show in 19? No..if he does it is about the arrangement being manipulated more than the loss of revenue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, ohbaby said: I do not think it is the file sharing issue as that has decreased a ton since streaming has been out the past 4-5 years. And really, do they care about a small activity such as BOA and DCI, I doubt it. It comes down to greed (record companies) and arrangement issues and that is it. They are not losing any more money than they ever had, ..............look at Justin Timberlake, he is worth $230 million dollars, you think he cares if Bluecoats do a Timberlake show in 19? No..if he does it is about the arrangement being manipulated more than the loss of revenue. To make up for lost profits due to pirating, artists, composers, and their publishers pushed for draconian legislation that didn't exist before. Twitch streamers with literally 2 viewers have the sound censored from their broadcasts if they play any music that requires synch rights (so pretty much everything), so yeah, somebody cares. I think it's pretty funny that you think Timberlake or any other uber millionaire would somehow only put his foot down when he thinks a corps isn't doing his amazing music justice or something. I can just imagine him trying to use DCP lingo: "I was fine with The Bluecoats doing Cry Me a River, but then they had to add that extra bass drum beat. How dare they chop and bop my music!"/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liahona Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Lance said: blame music ripping software and napster seriously with all of that file sharing and pirating, composers, artists, and studios took huge financial hits, and this is one of the ways that they try to compensate for that it wasn't like this back when we dinosaurs were making mixtapes for each other if anything, i see sync and mechanical rights becoming more draconian on a side note, i was reading something about the filming of reality shows last week, and found out that contestants will oftentimes start singing top 40 hits if they don't want what they're doing to get put on the air 5 hours ago, tesmusic said: I agree. Had sites like napster, limewire, 4shared, and various other sites not done what they did, I don't believe the issue would be as big, nor the fees being as high. 1 hour ago, ohbaby said: I do not think it is the file sharing issue as that has decreased a ton since streaming has been out the past 4-5 years. And really, do they care about a small activity such as BOA and DCI, I doubt it. It comes down to greed (record companies) and arrangement issues and that is it. They are not losing any more money than they ever had, ..............look at Justin Timberlake, he is worth $230 million dollars, you think he cares if Bluecoats do a Timberlake show in 19? No..if he does it is about the arrangement being manipulated more than the loss of revenue. The above is just added noise IMO...CD's go the way of the 8-track and the 78 rpm record... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 14 hours ago, ohbaby said: I do not think it is the file sharing issue as that has decreased a ton since streaming has been out the past 4-5 years. And really, do they care about a small activity such as BOA and DCI, I doubt it. Between high schools and colleges, there must be well past 10,000 marching bands. Small activity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 14 hours ago, ohbaby said: I do not think it is the file sharing issue as that has decreased a ton since streaming has been out the past 4-5 years. And really, do they care about a small activity such as BOA and DCI, I doubt it. It comes down to greed (record companies) and arrangement issues and that is it. They are not losing any more money than they ever had, ..............look at Justin Timberlake, he is worth $230 million dollars, you think he cares if Bluecoats do a Timberlake show in 19? No..if he does it is about the arrangement being manipulated more than the loss of revenue. greed or getting what they are truly owed? For years drum corps liberally ignored copyright laws. So did the band world, indoor etc. and the artist/publisher gets to set the fees. So while we are small pickins as you say, in the grand scheme of things, drum corps has gotten away with millions of licensing fees not paid over the decades. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 16 hours ago, Lance said: To make up for lost profits due to pirating, artists, composers, and their publishers pushed for draconian legislation that didn't exist before. Twitch streamers with literally 2 viewers have the sound censored from their broadcasts if they play any music that requires synch rights (so pretty much everything), so yeah, somebody cares. I think it's pretty funny that you think Timberlake or any other uber millionaire would somehow only put his foot down when he thinks a corps isn't doing his amazing music justice or something. I can just imagine him trying to use DCP lingo: "I was fine with The Bluecoats doing Cry Me a River, but then they had to add that extra bass drum beat. How dare they chop and bop my music!"/. Know with other types of copyrighted material if you do not protect the copyright you could lose it altogether. Iow if you sue only when you can make a bundle and ignore the little guys you are opening yourself up for problems. Not sure how it relates to music but has to be a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: greed or getting what they are truly owed? For years drum corps liberally ignored copyright laws. So did the band world, indoor etc. and the artist/publisher gets to set the fees. So while we are small pickins as you say, in the grand scheme of things, drum corps has gotten away with millions of licensing fees not paid over the decades. Yeah for decades thought corps had an out as they didn’t use “real” instruments in the pre 2 or 3 valve days. Was set straight by a poster here (no name without permission) who knows the subject. Bottom line is dc got away with a lot until imo it couldn’t fly under the radar anymore with the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:16 PM, ohbaby said: I do not think it is the file sharing issue as that has decreased a ton since streaming has been out the past 4-5 years. And really, do they care about a small activity such as BOA and DCI, I doubt it. It comes down to greed (record companies) and arrangement issues and that is it. They are not losing any more money than they ever had, ..............look at Justin Timberlake, he is worth $230 million dollars, you think he cares if Bluecoats do a Timberlake show in 19? No..if he does it is about the arrangement being manipulated more than the loss of revenue. Bluecoats are doing Timberlake next year?!? Finally a corps show my wife will be interested in!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Sideways said: Bluecoats are doing Timberlake next year?!? Finally a corps show my wife will be interested in!!! yup. junk in a box. it's the new Pink Floyds the Wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha1 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/7/2018 at 6:05 AM, Triple Forte said: Hello all, does anyone know if and when dvds/blurays of the 2018 DCI champ finals will be available for purchase? Took around Dcis website and didn't see anything Cannot wait!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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