BigW Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, tesmusic said: They've also done nothing about the Morgan Larson situation and the Cavaliers soundsport group. I wrote to DCI twice on it, and they said that the Cavaliers handled it, which is still not ok. They should face sanctions as well for having a convicted felon part of their organization this past summer. Maybe they listened to the smokescreeners and apologists instead of doing due diligence.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbobcat Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, LabMaster said: Not without all corps first agreeing it belongs in guidelines as you suggest, and voting it in to enable DCI as their facilitating org to enforce it. DCI can enforce what the corpsxallow and enable them to. This means corps will be giving up some amount of their autonomy in their operations. This all goes back to whether DCI is going to be a governing body or not. Right now,the structure of DCI,including the make up of the BoD is akin to "the tail wagging the dog". As I sated a few posts earlier,drum corps need an independent governing body with the authority to implement and enforce policies and procedures for all member corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 54 minutes ago, tesmusic said: They've also done nothing about the Morgan Larson situation and the Cavaliers soundsport group. I wrote to DCI twice on it, and they said that the Cavaliers handled it, which is still not ok. They should face sanctions as well for having a convicted felon part of their organization this past summer. Sounds familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, LabMaster said: Not without all corps first agreeing it belongs in guidelines as you suggest, and voting it in to enable DCI as their facilitating org to enforce it. DCI can enforce what the corpsxallow and enable them to. This means corps will be giving up some amount of their autonomy in their operations. or they can give up touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaklefthand4ever Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: Sounds familiar It does indeed. I feel sorry not only for those who were abused but for the MM's, unknowing staff and volunteers of corps which are suddenly in a spotlight they never expected to be under. That being said, it's what has to be done to protect the actual human beings who make up the organization. If that means that it has to be burned to the ground and rebuilt in a way that lives the core values and mission statement, then so be it. We do it all the time in the corporate world and we all know that to be fact. If you know something you should report it. This is an activity of young people. They deserve to be safe and have a great experience. This should not be and, indeed, should never have BEEN about legality. I truly believe when we stray our focus away from the PEOPLE and shift it towards an organization (be it a "governing body" or individual corps,) we lose sight of what is most important. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, cixelsyd said: And what connection does he have to Music City? (Besides having the same initials?) None. I never made any connection of Mark Calima with Music City. I mentioned Calima because you stated above that the reporter's article that you were most critical of did not have current employed people in DCI revealed in her article. That her article was all about former people employed in DCI. You stated her article ( your words ) " fails to present even ONE example who is employed in the activity. Nothing but people from the past, now long gone from Drum Corps " I mentioned Mark Calima here because the reporter revealed him in her article as having sexually assaulted students, and lost his teaching license in Texas as a result. DCI has him currently employed . As a DCI Judge. Edited December 14, 2018 by BRASSO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicManNJ Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: as we saw there were still issues in the season that ended 4 months ago. Do you think it's pristine now, or that there are surprises yet to come? Much more to come... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BRASSO Posted December 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, karuna said: That said her work so far has been careful and accurate. No reason to discredit her. Painful as it may be, drum corps was in desperate need of some very bright sunshine in all the dark corners. For context, The former YEA BOD and and DCI HQ were not about to do anything with George Hopkins. That was going to be buried forever, lets face it. It took an outside media, this reporter, to get the ball rolling to weed out alleged rapists, sexual assaulters, sexual harassers, sexual predators, and their Enablers in DCI. This reporter ultimately is potentially saving future victims from harm marching in DCI Drum Corps. Critique her perhaps imprecise word usage in sentences, her headlines, etc or anything else minor in her article if critics must. But the big picture here is that she is doing parents and current and future marchers a huge service here with her reporting, imo. THATS the overarching value in what she is doing here, imo. Edited December 14, 2018 by BRASSO 3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BRASSO said: For context, The former YEA BOD and and DCI HQ were not about to do anything with George Hopkins. That was going to be buried forever, lets face it. It took an outside media, this reporter, to get the ball rolling to weed out alleged rapists, sexual assaulters, sexual harassers, sexual predators, and their Enablers in DCI. This reporter ultimately is potentially saving future victims from harm marching in DCI Drum Corps. Critique her perhaps imprecise word usage in sentences, her headlines, etc or anything else minor in her article if critics must. But the big picture here is that she is doing parents and current and future marchers a huge service here with her reporting, imo. THATS the overarching value in what she is doing here, imo. I agree. Sad but true. Daylight is our friend, in this case. I don't think the response can be "business as usual" or "business mostly as usual" - personally I feel everything should be on the table. Dan should go. An external review should be conducted and a specialist/consultant hired to help adopt the path forward. DCI / corps relationship & structure may need entirely reworked. The tour model needs a hard look - organizations wishing to do a protracted tour need higher hurdles to top. Perhaps the activity loses minors and becomes an 18-24 or so activity for college/grad students Clearly things need to change. And in a wholesale manner. If I were a DCI corporate sponsor I would walk unless Dan resigns. JMO Edited December 14, 2018 by George Dixon 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucbari Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Can we maybe bottom line this discussion? Is this it?....Is this the end of Drum Corps as we know it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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