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1 hour ago, jeffmolnar said:

Rules are interpreted though. They are often not an exact science. As is the case here, where many believe the Arsenal director said absolutely nothing wrong. He wasn't "publicly disparaging" OC and Pioneer. He was simply stating facts. Facts that no decent person can disagree with, if we're being honest.

 

I’m not disagreeing but you can enforce rules retroactively 

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1 hour ago, BRASSO said:

 It was illegal however under DCI rules of Procedures and Policy in 2010 for any group of DCI  Corps to convene among themselves a secret, clandestine meeting, without the prior notification of the group meeting by the Corps with notifications to both DCI HQ, and to other Corps. That was far more egregious of DCI rules and Procedeures than the innocuous and rather harmless remarks this Arsenal Corps Director made on Social Media the other day. His  posted remarks were meant to be helpful, not harmful to fellow marchers, parents. In my view he was FAR more transparent in what he was attempting to do, than has DCI HQ of late, or the 2 Corps Directors were in 2010. This Corps Director did not set out to do harm to his fellow Corps, imo. Not sure we can say that with any degree of confidence by those 2 Corps Directors in 2010.. and it WAS a violation of DCI protocol at the time, as well as DCI Policy and Procedures then. DCI HQ however took no action on the 2 Corps Directors at all.

And we all saw the actions taken in 2010.... new board, Dan a smidge more power.... there was action taken. 

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1 hour ago, ShamrockTuba said:

If that's the case, why are they allowing someone who knowingly hired man who lost his teaching license for sending a student inappropriate messages to lead a world class corps? It's an ongoing issue that they still haven't dealt with,

They did. They basically forced him out as chairman of the executive board. 

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36 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 Dan A. is operating in quicksand, imo

DCI’s actions have been generally #### poor but anymore they’ve made themselves screwed no matter what they do. The sad part is their actions are usually the worst option

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21 minutes ago, Spatzzz said:

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If you think I'm defending DCIs actions or lack of actions you are mistaken. . They are looking at 2nd hand information regarding the claim they paid someone to hide the skeeve's record. 

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 There is no evidence or info however that DCI HQ is even" looking "into the allegation on Fred Morrison that was reported in the Philly Inquirer months ago. You are speculating alone that " DCI Is looking into it " , let alone is about to take action on it. My speculation is that DCI HQ is simply hoping that sufficient time will pass and that the reporter's claim  in her piece will go away, without DCI HQ " looking into it " any further. All that said, it is not speculation to state that DCI has not responded either on its website, nor to the investigative reporter, on the allegation made re. Fred Morrison.

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4 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 There is no evidence or info however that DCI HQ is even" looking "into the allegation on Fred Morrison that was reported in the Philly Inquirer months ago. You are speculating alone that " DCI Is looking into it " , let alone is about to take action on it. My speculation is that DCI HQ is simply hoping that sufficient time will pass and that the reporter's claim  in her piece will go away, without DCI HQ " looking into it " any further. All that said, it is not speculation to state that DCI has not responded either on its website, nor to the investigative reporter, on the allegation made re. Fred Morrison.

And you are speculating that they are not looking into it.

Again, not defending DCI here. Have you called DCI and asked if any action are going to be taken against Fred Morrison or have you just come here to DCP to complain and argue with people? 

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34 minutes ago, Spatzzz said:

they acted quickly.

 

Way too quickly no planning on any collateral damage to themselves. If they slapped this man on the hand, to vent their frustration damage control could begin. This thread would be a happy thread and may be on page 2 by now. His post on Reddit would be down the list and some kids would have scholarships. No real damage to the dci brand.    Now look how quickly they reacted and managed to rub their own face in the mud in the Philly Paper and placed it on the national news wires "dci-head revisited" all over again. Tomorrow school administrators get to see this over their morning coffee and reject the band directors request for housing with confidence they are doing the right thing.  

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21 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

 There is no evidence or info that DCI HQ is even" looking "into the allegation however on Fred Morrison that was reported in the Philly Inquirer. You are speculating alone that " DCI Is looking into it " , let alone is about to take action on it. My speculation is that DCI HQ is simply hoping that sufficient time will pass and that the reporter's claim  in her piece will go away, without DCI HQ " looking into it " further. All that said, it is not speculation to state that DCI has not responded either on its website, nor to the investigative reporter, on the allegation made re. Fred Morrison.

...or that we will all be too distracted by the smoke & mirrors of the Arsenal fiasco (which shouldn't have been a fiasco btw) to ask for answers re: said corps director.  They overreacted to a situation and haven't responded to another (allegedly).  In the end, who gets hurt?  The members.  There are members who will not march - they have no place to call home or have lost the heart to do so.  There are members marching under (alleged) predators.  There are members who may perform to smaller audiences, see & feel protests, & face the real possibility of cancelled shows.  Change is 100% necessary and that change should start at the top.  Sometimes a true leader has to look beyond what is best for him/herself and focus on what is best for the activity and the mission of the activity, event, non-profit, etc.

Speaking of which, they ARE a non-profit and must abide by a set of standards and rules.  They must live up to their mission and values.  Are they doing so under the current governing members?  Hmmm...

Vision Statement

A world in which the positive life-transforming personal and societal benefits of marching music performing arts are widely recognized and enjoyed.

Core Values

Pursuing Excellence: DCI strives to consistently demonstrate excellence in its operations and results and remain the preeminent leader in its field.

Teamwork and Collaboration: DCI promotes effective teamwork, productive relationships, and cooperation to achieve superior results.

Visionary Leadership: DCI leads in moving the marching music performing arts toward a preferred future that inspires others to share the vision and engage.

Commitment and Dedication: DCI works diligently and tirelessly in its devotion to advancing marching music performing arts.

Creativity and Innovation: DCI demonstrates imagination and ingenuity to develop new and effective ways to accomplish its mission.

Mutual Care and Respect: DCI treats all with dignity, courtesy, attention, and appreciation; and seeks these traits in others with whom it engages

  

  ***Crud...I think I put this in the wrong topic***

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