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2 hours ago, skevinp said:

I didn't know you were the Director of XYZ Corporation.  

Kudos on your new cutting edge technology for warning people when their flies are open.

"XYZ Corporation: We Cover Your Needs From X to Z."

This is marketing gold, I tell ya. :laughing:

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2 hours ago, cixelsyd said:

No, that is not how it works.  A corps can be in the black today, but end up in debt by the time they dissolve.

Take this hopefully hypothetical example.  Their director suddenly resigns.  Upcoming weekend camp must be cancelled.  Camp fees will not be collected, and any prepaid will be refunded by the corps.  But the facility fee for the camp location cannot be recovered.  That one-two punch causes a significant financial loss to the corps.

Following week, an emergency meeting convenes.  The corps decides that they cannot replace their director in time to keep everything 2019-season-related on track, and elects to take the season off with intent to resume for 2020.  The kids are released for 2019.  Now, all prepaid tour fees are refunded, another financial loss to the corps.  

The corps has plenty of other funding streams planned.  However, the inactivity is causing more problems.

- Participatory fundraising, such as car washes and concession staffing at the local stadium, are now halted because the kids are gone.

- Donations and fundraising done by parents dries up because the parents vanished along with their kids.

- Fees for local performances are lost now that there is no performing group.

That leaves only the non-participatory methods of fundraising that corps administration can do, such as souvenir sales, donations from local businesses, and grant writing.  But no one will donate or grant to the corps now that they are not active and present in the community.  If the corps had some special groundswell of public support like Arsenal is experiencing now, souvenir sales might be a real help - but this hypothetical corps director practiced safe social media use, so there is no controversial backstory.  Souvie sales flatline.

Meanwhile, the bills keep coming in.  Staff payments may still be due, depending on contractual terms.  Periodic bills for insurance, storage space rental, website domain space, etc., will continue.  Even if the corps decides to dissolve immediately, some of these expenses will take time to put a stop to.  In summary:

This week was a net loss.

Next week will be a net loss.

The ensuing months will be a net loss.

By the time the corps dissolves, the corps that used to be in the black could quite possibly be in debt.

 

Stu, you are very reluctant to admit when you are wrong.  You would be a perfect fit with current DCI administration.

In Stu's world, any responsible corps or prospective corps will raise enough (non-refundable) money in advance of any activity that there's never any danger of them folding during the season.

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36 minutes ago, HockeyDad said:

Wrong!  What happened next was Dan had himself a little hissy fit because some kid was messing with his sandbox. Then Dan did the dumbest thing that could have been done and kicked him out. And THIS is the person they chose to lead dci. 😠

Oh and I almost forgot to add that what Dan did next was to bold face lie that he gave the Arsenal director “options”.  I’m sure Dan violated a dci rule there. Why is he not given the boot?

Since you used the sandbox terminology in that aspect DCI is like DCP. It is the Mods sandbox here not ours. We are the kids invited in to play, and they own both the sand and the box. No mater if we disagree with their decisions or not the Mods can shut us down, shut us up, suspend us if they determine we violated their policy; all because we are playing in their sandbox. And Arsenal wants to be a kid playing in the DCI sandbox. You think Dan threw a hissy fit; well it is his box to thow the fit in not the director of Arsenal.

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4 hours ago, HockeyDad said:

You are talking about what would happen. I am talking about what should happen. Dan blundered big time (IMO). Did he not consider the optics here?  It’s a new time. Information moves fast. It’s time for Dan to step aside and let a new energetic generation step in. 

What YOU think SHOULD happen. 

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45 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said:

Key words: "as they see fit".

And their judgment call may (or may not) have been the wrong one. Just because you have the right to make a certain decision doesn't mean you should.

True, just because Dan can do somthing does not mean he should; but it is still his call to make. We all have on restropect wished we had made another call. And Dan may look back at this in that light. But the buck rightly stops at the person with the authority to make the call.

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42 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said:

In Stu's world, any responsible corps or prospective corps will raise enough (non-refundable) money in advance of any activity that there's never any danger of them folding during the season.

To become a national touring corps in DCI, yes. Never again should DCI allow corps with business management styles and financial models like Teal, Revo, the newer VK, Lone Star, etc to tour. A corps should prove that they are in the black before tour, during tour, and after tour or not allwed to tour at all. So yes to what you just posted.

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1 hour ago, Stu said:

Once he established himself as the director of a corps which was part of DCI, and posted as such, DCI then had the authority to admonish him as they see fit according to the DCI code manual. It matters not whether you, nor I, think what he said was appropriate.

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Correct, In social justice, it does not matter how the majority rules. Radio Stations polled about "Baby It's Cold Outside" 94% didn't think it was an issue, but the 6% was able to ban the song.
In this case, it does not matter if anyone outside dci thought it was offensive, they did and in turn shot themselves in the foot. Social Justice works! Move on nothing to see here.

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31 minutes ago, Spatzzz said:

What YOU think SHOULD happen. 

Nothing. Not a thing. No response was warranted from Dan. 

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1 minute ago, HockeyDad said:

Nothing. Not a thing. No response was warranted from Dan. 

HockeyDad went to store did we get the "Statement" yet?

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58 minutes ago, Bluzes said:

Correct, In social justice, it does not matter how the majority rules. Radio Stations polled about "Baby It's Cold Outside" 94% didn't think it was an issue, but the 6% was able to ban the song.
In this case, it does not matter if anyone outside dci thought it was offensive, they did and in turn shot themselves in the foot. Social Justice works! Move on nothing to see here.

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No clue what you meant here because what you typed is a non-sequitur.

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