onionhead Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 lets hear your choices........ who thinks Spirit can win the Ott ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 whoever scores highest on those sheets after the 3 nights are averaged together ( which is stupid) 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den8uml Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: whoever scores highest on those sheets after the 3 nights are averaged together ( which is stupid) It IS stupid BUT until judges are more consistent, it would stink to be the best drums out there, then that only judge who scores you lower is the finals judge. We all know that exists, even though some of the time it is a performance issue, or a different corps lineup, but take those instances out and there's still a lot of variance in opinion between judges and the outliers become obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den8uml Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Talk to me after San Antonio when we can really start comparing! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 For the time being, I would say SCV... for the whole wash. But it's too soon to give a good guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStainGlass Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On a shelf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffmolnar Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Den8uml said: Talk to me after San Antonio when we can really start comparing! I bet things don't change too terribly much. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn426 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Not Stupid to average because Three judges and their individual taste get to make the choice... Not just the lucky chosen one on finals night.. What the Chief Judge should be emphasizing to the Caption judges though is to make sure that they are uncapping their Scores starting on Prelims night.. Meaning that the winner on Prelims night gets just a high a score if it was Finals night, so that each judge has equal merit in the averaging of the scores.. We've seen the perfect score on Prelims night during some of the dominant BD years... but in years where the Captions are split up between corps the scores are usually not up at the max.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, Den8uml said: It IS stupid BUT until judges are more consistent, it would stink to be the best drums out there, then that only judge who scores you lower is the finals judge. We all know that exists, even though some of the time it is a performance issue, or a different corps lineup, but take those instances out and there's still a lot of variance in opinion between judges and the outliers become obvious. to quote the late, great Sherman T. Potter: HORSE HOCKEY!! I'll throw in a MULE FRITTERS! TOO YOU'RE the CHAMPION....yet you win that sheet Thursday and Friday, but not Saturday??? the judges job is to judge their sheet, and the show of the day and rank and rate accordingly. You don't have a good finals night...you shouldn't win. See crown 15, same applies for captions. If you're a fan of straight line slotted judging, sure this model works, but the judging system isn't set up to be that way, nor should it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook'emCavies Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, BlueStainGlass said: On a shelf Specifically The Cavaliers shelf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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