mfrontz Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Truthfully, i am somewhat Amused by the Repeated expressions of concern for Participant Safety. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 44 minutes ago, tesmusic said: Design is more dangerous? False. Really. All a judge has to do today is stand on the end zone side of the 30 and no corps member will ever come close. 😊 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, HockeyDad said: Really. All a judge has to do today is stand on the end zone side of the 30 and no corps member will ever come close. 😊 If they’re in trouble, send Boston an S.O.S. They are familiar with the territory of which you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 4 hours ago, brassboy said: They really should call the new rule the Ausdemore Rule. But no, I disagree it’s about ruining “pretty pictures.” As shows get more complex with the addition of movable props and more quick transitions to different staging (such as scattering to a new spot vs drill that gradually transitions from one form to the next) AND the inclusion of 154 members (vs the 128 of not too long ago), the field is a much more crowded and hazardous place for an extra wandering body to be. Indeed. Worse, after he was a visible um....distraction a few years ago, he continued to be with no apparent counseling about it. and worse, now with this rule, the supposed safe space for judges is even more littered. I know a few big names were very loud against this change when it was voted in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, brassboy said: Do you remember Ausdemore during DCI prelims last year? I wanted to reach through the movie theater screen and yank him to the front sidelines myself. San Antonio was worse. I yelled at him as I watched him on my tv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flammaster Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Maybe he adjudicates with a wide stance. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsfever Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 With so few corps competing in each show, what need is there for judges? Most casual fans can tell you the score and placement BEFORE the show even begins. I know... only half serious on this one. But really, who wants to look at judges running around on the field anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said: Well, that was part of the argument for making this change, and since the rule passed, apparently a number of people at DCI were convinced. That said, I would be curious as to when you think design was most dangerous for judges on the field. Or for anyone: which were the shows with the greatest potential to injure a judge who wasn't quick on his or her feet? I think a lot of this has to do with predictability and changing directions. Forms are far less linear these days and there is a lot of collapsing motion. Additionally, since the late 90's drumlines have been increasingly integral to the form and less frequently manifest as 'lines'. A percussion judge standing in front of a snare line is in danger of getting wrapped by it or squeezed by horns in a matter of only a few counts. Be aware that even a small nudge will put teeth out on a horn player (seen it). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicsta Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I've often wondered, in the YouTube era, if it is not beholden on the judges to "know" a show before judging it. Not only could this result in more accurate repertoire scores, but it would allow the judge to avoid congested drill areas. I remember back when they used to have judges tapes on the DVD, one drum judge mentioned that he had not yet viewed a show before finals, but he "had some notes". That struck me as stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaklefthand4ever Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, cfirwin3 said: True. They do way more than I did just 20 years ago... and far more than 10 before that. Undeniably true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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