DFA1970 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 And everybody corp dose this. But it’s getting overdone. How does one judge that? Best runners? Seriously even my favorite corps do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatzzz Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, DFA1970 said: And everybody corp dose this. But it’s getting overdone. How does one judge that? Best runners? Seriously even my favorite corps do this. But it isn't just running. Each person has specific counts, leaving and arrival times, pathways and body responsibilities as they move through space. A well choreographed "scatter" isn't really a scatter but a designed and rehearsed design element just as any other drill move. It requires skill both mentally and physically from the marching member just as a drill set from 1988 would for a marcher of that era. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 ...or scatter drill for a marcher of that era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, DFA1970 said: And everybody corp dose this. But it’s getting overdone. How does one judge that? Best runners? Seriously even my favorite corps do this. It's judged the same way that linear drill is judged (but not as linear drill). Consistency of presentation Achievement of purpose (effectiveness) Aesthetics (most important issue) It's probably a mistake to assume that it's the 'running' that is being adjudicated (as if the judge is looking for something akin to heel to toe rolling technique). They are looking at the picture and the presentation... they are looking at the investment of movement (these are important to adjudicating drill as well). Part of the frustration is in the reduction of what they are doing as it relates to one's desired effect of formal marching. There is no marching in ballet, crew dancing, musical theater production numbers, etc. Visual performance and technical execution can be more than 'marching' as we know it. Edit: Okay... so I lied... The Nutcracker has a considerable amount of uniform marching in it. No... really. Edited July 12, 2019 by cfirwin3 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimaster Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 hours ago, cfirwin3 said: Okay... so I lied... The Nutcracker has a considerable amount of uniform marching in it. No... really. And it's the most popular ballet of all time...coincidence? I think not! haha. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This activity isn't ballet, theater, crew dancing, cheer or anything like that. It's marching music's major league... That's what it's billed as, anyway... Aww shucks. I'm playing devil's advocate with that one. Of course there is a kernel of Truth in my statement, but we can do more than just march, but it would be nice not to be compelled to do all those things and be successful competing for a title. Anyhow I don't want to be anything but respectful, so I'll just say that I mostly agree with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyNOLA Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Spatzzz said: But it isn't just running. Each person has specific counts, leaving and arrival times, pathways and body responsibilities as they move through space. A well choreographed "scatter" isn't really a scatter but a designed and rehearsed design element just as any other drill move. It requires skill both mentally and physically from the marching member just as a drill set from 1988 would for a marcher of that era. You can put a dress on a horse but at the end of the day it's still a horse 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuStu Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Spatzzz said: But it isn't just running. Each person has specific counts, leaving and arrival times, pathways and body responsibilities as they move through space. A well choreographed "scatter" isn't really a scatter but a designed and rehearsed design element just as any other drill move. It requires skill both mentally and physically from the marching member just as a drill set from 1988 would for a marcher of that era. I don't think anyone believes its truly ad libbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZER Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, StuStu said: I don't think anyone believes its truly ad libbed. That's, unfortunately for me what the inconsistency of foot strike timing and style screams. I understand that it is all very well planned and rehearsed, but when combined with any multitude of arm, hand, horn, face emotion etc. motions, it really comes off as "be happy/######/depressed/joyful while rapidly relocating for 16 counts" as you desire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Body responsibilities made me lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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