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2 minutes ago, George Dixon said:

it's a draw in groups of 3 - so them, BD & SCV will be a random draw. Right?

What score do they use for Devils?  No score tonight could let BAC and Crowm pass theor last score. Does that put Devils as a five seed? 😱 

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15 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:

What if Phantom had fun? I mean I always loved Phantom when I was a kid but it seems like they basically do the same show every year. Dark and moody and ballsy, but...just wish I could be surprised by them just once.

They were destroyed on here in 15 when they did the Paris show.

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26 minutes ago, DrumManTx said:

I feel very similarly about Phantom Regiment that I do about Cadets.  They are starting to REALLY sell this show and are in way better shape performance wise than June had indicated.  Really solid percussion and musical performance overall.  They've made some really smart changes too, I'm so glad that they got rid of the I AM JOAN bit and the like.  

That said, I think the performers are way better than the show they're being given.  I'm glad they're not in the state a lot of people thought they'd be in at this point, but I still think they need to take a really hard look at their placement trends and overall design/programming and make some decisions.  Not going up in placement since 2012 is a pretty stark trend.  They might maintain or go up one or two this year, but I still think they can do so much better.  And I say that as someone who PR made fall in love with the activity about ten years ago.  I want them to have a show that fires on all cylinders so badly!  Do something bold and different but in a PR way!  2005 sticks out as a show that did that.  

But that all said, congrats on really kicking it into high gear to stay in finals and then some.  The show has grown immensely since Detroit.  Just wanna see them given a product that they're not fighting all season.  

Cadets (IMO) will have a very rough go of it in SAT. Perhaps in 10th. Regiment/Crossmen/BAC/BK feel like they have momentum right now. IMO BS/Crown/Cadets/ moving down and Mandarins and Cavaliers may be in stasis. I guess we'll know a lot more in a week. Things can change rapidly this time of year

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1 minute ago, Old Corps Guy said:

What score do they use for Devils?  No score tonight could let BAC and Crowm pass theor last score. Does that put Devils as a five seed? 😱 

most recent scores - so the batch from Denver gets screwed. I heard a suggestion they would use the most recent score from Friday/prior but IMO that's not really fair either

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Just now, mfrontz said:

They were destroyed on here in 15 when they did the Paris show.

The Paris show was laughable. Horrible design concept. That’s what you get when you try to stay Phantom but do something “different.” That concept would suck if BD was doing it. 

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1 minute ago, mfrontz said:

They were destroyed on here in 15 when they did the Paris show.

I think that was more because it felt like a rehash of 2005 which I still think is the kind of show they need. Something in that vein without rehashing a classic.  

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Just now, George Dixon said:

most recent scores - so the batch from Denver gets screwed. I heard a suggestion they would use the most recent score from Friday/prior but IMO that's not really fair either

We dealt with this a couple of years ago, yes? I think they didn’t use the scores from the corps that got scored.

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2 minutes ago, mfrontz said:

They were destroyed on here in 15 when they did the Paris show.

Yes, but 2015 wasn't 2019. In 2015, they depicted a Paris shopping spree just a year removed from a top 6 finish. 

A lot of opinions have changed since 2015... 😕

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