MikeD Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: I'm still waiting for $400 i was promised years ago, with a director revered as a saint in the activity. of course the corps is dead now but still One of the corps I taught back in 1976 paid me $10/week, when they had the money. That included writing most of the percussion book and teaching. Edited September 28, 2019 by MikeD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 12 hours ago, fsthnds said: I am hearing that US Bands staff and judges are being told that they will "NOT" be paid until the season is over in Nov. Seems like the Cadets tech has a lot of company with him while waiting for his money! As long as the USBands people know it going in, I can't fault the organization, if that is how they choose to operate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 8 hours ago, HockeyDad said: Oh really? Name the corps. Looking for active corps. midwest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Ghost said: Yes, it is a very good post. Now, go back and give the guy a like click. thought i did...corrected 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 hours ago, MikeD said: As long as the USBands people know it going in, I can't fault the organization, if that is how they choose to operate. well if it was told to them after the season started, well, yeah...thats not good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: thought i did...corrected That's the way big guy. We knew you had it in yeah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seen-it-all Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 11 hours ago, MikeD said: As long as the USBands people know it going in, I can't fault the organization, if that is how they choose to operate. I can. It's amateur hour nonsense that rewards incompetent management. I'm curious to know if other band circuits operate the same way when it comes to their administrative staff, judges, etc. "Come work for us. You'll be paid. Eventually." (wink wink) It's well past time for this method of operations to evolve into a more professional and business-like manner. If that's more than some of these organizations can handle, then maybe they shouldn't be in the business of running these shows. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyDad Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: midwest Still waiting. I’ll just conclude there are no others, as there is zero reason to not actually provide a name or names of other active corps who aren’t paying their staff, or, delaying payment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, seen-it-all said: I can. It's amateur hour nonsense that rewards incompetent management. I'm curious to know if other band circuits operate the same way when it comes to their administrative staff, judges, etc. "Come work for us. You'll be paid. Eventually." (wink wink) It's well past time for this method of operations to evolve into a more professional and business-like manner. If that's more than some of these organizations can handle, then maybe they shouldn't be in the business of running these shows. IMO you have this exactly backwards. This is new management attempting to straighten out years of miss-management. I'm sure they would rather be floating along with wonderful cash flow so they can pay the folks in a timely manner, as identified in their adjudicator materials. Look back in history of the many corps that failed over time that never were financially sound, that ran seat-of-the-pants operations. IF this approach YEA is taking is true (as all we know is what a person posted), it seems to me that their admin team is working to get their fiscal house in order. As to your "wink, wink" statement....if they renege on their payments later, how many people would EVER come back next year as staff or adjudicators? IMO they are working towards creating a professional business-like operation. It doesn't happen overnight. NOT running shows as they work through this is the WORST idea I have seen posted, as it would eliminate a large revenue stream just when they need it most, and it would be the end of USBands, for sure, which IMO is a terrible idea. Admin hat on: If anyone has an email from YEA to the staff and adjudicators, do not post it here. It is against DCP Guidelines to post emails from anybody other than yourself. Edited September 28, 2019 by MikeD 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybersnyder Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, MikeD said: IMO you have this exactly backwards. This is new management attempting to straighten out years of miss-management. I'm sure they would rather be floating along with wonderful cash flow so they can pay the folks in a timely manner, as identified in their adjudicator materials. Look back in history of the many corps that failed over time that never were financially sound, that ran seat-of-the-pants operations. IF this approach YEA is taking is true (as all we know is what a person posted), it seems to me that their admin team is working to get their fiscal house in order. As to your "wink, wink" statement....if they renege on their payments later, how many people would EVER come back next year as staff or adjudicators? IMO they are working towards creating a professional business-like operation. It doesn't happen overnight. NOT running shows as they work through this is the WORST idea I have seen posted, as it would eliminate a large revenue stream just when they need it most, and it would be the end of USBands, for sure, which IMO is a terrible idea. Admin hat on: If anyone has an email from YEA to the staff and adjudicators, do not post it here. It is against DCP Guidelines to post emails from anybody other than yourself. I agree that this admin team is just trying to dig out from the hole dug by previous errors. They have their work cut out for them. I do not envy their task. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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