Cadets 2020

[TwoValves]

24 minutes ago, MikeD said:

Those are indeed items DCI has an interest in knowing. That doesn't apply to FB, DCP, Reddit, etc...people who are making snide comments on social media. Those people do NOT have any right to know, as much as they might want to know. 

Actually, as a 501(c)(3) non-profit, the public has every right to know about their financial situation, and they are, in fact, required by law to make key financial info public in the form of the 990s each year.  So to say that the general public has no right to know, is patently false.  They do have the right to know.  Plus, the public also includes the potential parents of members and others who could be affected by their financial struggles. (Debtors and potential vendors, for example), and they most certainly are entitled to an honest, transparent explanation about how an unproven group of people plan to handle the safety and well-being of the 150-ish young people they are responsible for. 

[TwoValves]

6 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

and apparently DCI was ok with everything

Were they?  Do we know there is nothing still being discussed and that a full-on "You're good to go" has been given to them?  Or do we only know that DCI has not come out with any type of a public statement so far?

[MikeD]

8 minutes ago, TwoValves said:

Actually, as a 501(c)(3) non-profit, the public has every right to know about their financial situation, and they are, in fact, required by law to make key financial info public in the form of the 990s each year.  So to say that the general public has no right to know, is patently false.  They do have the right to know.  Plus, the public also includes the potential parents of members and others who could be affected by their financial struggles. (Debtors and potential vendors, for example), and they most certainly are entitled to an honest, transparent explanation about how an unproven group of people plan to handle the safety and well-being of the 150-ish young people they are responsible for. 

Yes, the public can see the 990 forms when submitted. That is far different from the types of questions and snide comments being thrown around this thread. So no, my post is not "patently false".

As long as those who are footing the bill for a marching member (be it parents or the members themselves) are satisfied with what they see and hear, it is no business of outsiders to peer into every dusty corner looking for 'gotcha' items, just because they feel like it.

[George Dixon]

20 minutes ago, TwoValves said:

Actually, as a 501(c)(3) non-profit, the public has every right to know about their financial situation, and they are, in fact, required by law to make key financial info public in the form of the 990s each year.  So to say that the general public has no right to know, is patently false.  They do have the right to know.  Plus, the public also includes the potential parents of members and others who could be affected by their financial struggles. (Debtors and potential vendors, for example), and they most certainly are entitled to an honest, transparent explanation about how an unproven group of people plan to handle the safety and well-being of the 150-ish young people they are responsible for. 

"an unproven group of people" -- do you know who Denise Bonfiglio is???? What an absolutely RIDICULOUS statement. This "unproven" team is loaded with caption winners, championship winners, corporate leaders and DCI HOFers.. 

Edited January 24, 2020 by George Dixon

[seen-it-all]

7 minutes ago, MikeD said:

As long as those who are footing the bill for a marching member (be it parents or the members themselves) are satisfied with what they see and hear, it is no business of outsiders to peer into every dusty corner looking for 'gotcha' items, just because they feel like it.

What about donors to their fundraising campaigns, which can include alumni and fans in general who may have never had any formal direct ties to the Cadets? How much, specifically, do you think they (along with those members/parents paying tour/camp fees) are entitled to know about where and how that money is being allocated? 

[2000Cadet]

5 minutes ago, seen-it-all said:

What about donors to their fundraising campaigns, which can include alumni and fans in general who may have never had any formal direct ties to the Cadets? How much, specifically, do you think they (along with those members/parents paying tour/camp fees) are entitled to know about where and how that money is being allocated? 

Then they should be using the proper channels to request the information they seek, as opposed to asking random people on a forum. 

[MikeD]

15 minutes ago, seen-it-all said:

What about donors to their fundraising campaigns, which can include alumni and fans in general who may have never had any formal direct ties to the Cadets? How much, specifically, do you think they (along with those members/parents paying tour/camp fees) are entitled to know about where and how that money is being allocated? 

Each individual needs to know as much as they as individually think necessary to make donations or continue to participate as members. If they are not happy with what they are able to ascertain, then they can make donations or participate elsewhere. Again, it is up to those people to be comfortable, not those outside sniping and making unsupported commentary.

[JimF-LowBari]

46 minutes ago, seen-it-all said:

What about donors to their fundraising campaigns, which can include alumni and fans in general who may have never had any formal direct ties to the Cadets? How much, specifically, do you think they (along with those members/parents paying tour/camp fees) are entitled to know about where and how that money is being allocated? 

What difference does it make what another person thinks? If they want to ask then they ask. And if they don’t get an answer or don’t like what they hear then they can quit giving.

Happened to me when a now defunct DCI didn’t acknowledge donations like they corps website stated they would. After second time I emailed to see if anyone was stealing the checks. Response was to blame corps members for not writing a thank you note (seriously). 

Edited January 24, 2020 by JimF-LowBari

[TwoValves]

1 hour ago, George Dixon said:

"an unproven group of people" -- do you know who Denise Bonfiglio is???? What an absolutely RIDICULOUS statement. This "unproven" team is loaded with caption winners, championship winners, corporate leaders and DCI HOFers.. 

Unproven - yes.  Bravo for Hall of Famer Denise Bonfiglio.  I'm sure she earned that honor.  However that does not automatically equal the knowledge and skillsets to run a multi-faceted multi-million dollar organization.  She may do very well and she may be surrounded by a strong team.   The unproven part is that we still don't actually know who is running what at this point.  Are Denise and the Cadets still a part of YEA as of this moment?  Does the BOD of YEA still have complete control of the finances?   If the answer is no, then why is that information not yet public?  Why does the YEA site still list The Cadets as part of their org if that has changed?  If it has changed, why is there no listing of the new BOD who IS controlling the financial interest of The Cadets.

Everyone can feel free to join in and attack if they choose.  That's your perogative.  But I am not makikng wild claims or snarky comments.  I am asking legitimate questions about the transparency and stability of what was/is/may be YEA and The Cadets, as well as asking questions about why much of this still seems to be shrouded in secrecy and not a topic anyone is supposed to be allowed to discuss.

[MikeD]

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