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1 hour ago, garfield said:

And maybe with a reminder that the person who committed those mismanagement errors is suing the org for mid-six-figures plus expenses plus lost career wages.

Remind those creditors that their anger should be directed at him, not the current leadership nor the kids they purport to support.

Thank you sir for bringing some common sense to this ridiculous conversation!

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6 hours ago, garfield said:

There are no issues at all with one NP lending money to another.  Wasn't there some discussion about Cadets inquiring about borrowing from other corps?  That would be the same idea (NP to NP).

That said, DCI is, or has been, a "bank" to almost every corps in one way or another.  It's TOTALLY not unusual that Cadets "borrowed" (that term is being used too loosely here, IMO) money from DCI last year, but it is unusual for a corps with Cadets' gravitas to not be able to pay it back when expected.

And I would think that it's even possible that Cadets wouldn't necessarily have to pay it back before they can join the tour.  The point is to see Cadets survive, not kill them calling in a debt at an unnecessary time.

"DCI" is the corps' combined interest and, therefor, Cadets "borrowing" was coming from the other corps through the vehicle of DCI's financial capacity, such that it is.  I'm highly confident that not a single one of them wants to be THE one to "call" the loan and force Cadets into an untenable situation.

The "Bank of DCI" is not run by Wall St or JPMorgan.

 

 

they can't afford Jamie Dimon

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6 hours ago, garfield said:

And maybe with a reminder that the person who committed those mismanagement errors is suing the org for mid-six-figures plus expenses plus lost career wages.

Remind those creditors that their anger should be directed at him, not the current leadership nor the kids they purport to support.

well......thats not how businesses work. leadership can and does change in many companies, but the creditor still wants to be paid. Being nice doesn't pay the bills.

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5 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said:

Has instructional staff griped or is stuff being thrown at the wall to see what sticks? 
 

picturing a roulette wheel or dart board being used to decide where to point the finger tomorrow. Biggest thing I see going downhill is credibility and I don’t mean Cadets 

If you don’t like what a corps is doing then don’t join or donate $$$. Don’t let it become an obsession....

a letter was posted online last fall from YEA saying payment was being delayed

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3 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

a letter was posted online last fall from YEA saying payment was being delayed

And off the the races we went..... 🙄

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17 hours ago, Slingerland said:

Their Board was able to fire Hopkins following publication of the stories of his history of harassment and worse. They could have replaced him when he was running up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

 

15 hours ago, George Dixon said:

the original yes-man stacked board did NOT fire Hopkins. The new board did. 

... which only confirms the premise you were replying to.

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1 hour ago, cixelsyd said:

 

 

... which only confirms the premise you were replying to.

Exactly. It was always in a YEA Board’s power to step in and remove Hopkins for fiscal mis-management. There were 16 other directors on the Board besides Hopkins listed for FY 2017 - they share the blame for how badly this organization was being managed, since it’s highly unlikely their annual outside audit (required by PA law for an org their size) wasn’t telling them that they had major financial issues. 
 

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1 hour ago, cixelsyd said:

 

 

... which only confirms the premise you were replying to.

There was no way that the old board was firing him,  GH hand picked them.  The old board president told Jim in LaCrosse in 2017 that he answered an ad in Drum Corps World for YEA board members. 

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4 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

There was no way that the old board was firing him,  GH hand picked them.  The old board president told Jim in LaCrosse in 2017 that he answered an ad in Drum Corps World for YEA board members. 

I find it odd that so many here are wanting to excuse the inaction of the former Board of YEA and put it all on Hopkins. They had actual legal responsibility to oversee the organization's activities - their failure to do so doesn't get them off the hook, and the fact that Hopkins was/is a sexual predator actually has nothing to do with the fiscal mismanagement of their organization for years prior to his eventual unmasking.

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4 minutes ago, Slingerland said:

I find it odd that so many here are wanting to excuse the inaction of the former Board of YEA and put it all on Hopkins. They had actual legal responsibility to oversee the organization's activities - their failure to do so doesn't get them off the hook, and the fact that Hopkins was/is a sexual predator actually has nothing to do with the fiscal mismanagement of their organization for years prior to his eventual unmasking.

I don't recall much, if any talk of financial mismanagement as the allegations against GH began to roll out.   

But then, lots of people were too busy shouting extreme exaggerations like "Children were raped!!!" that tended to suck up all of the air in the room and overshadowed the actual story unfolding.

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