grenadasmoothie Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: Eastern PA, Jersey. But that’s a decision for 2021 I was emailed about 2020 ticket sales for Williamsport today. im 50. I felt young last year 20 & 21 are Billtown. With an option to renew for two more 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, grenadasmoothie said: 20 & 21 are Billtown. With an option to renew for two more 😕 then IMO...market the hell out of bands in PA from Tyrone/State College to NJ, and go for some MY and MD too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishbonecav Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: You refuse to accept the DCA audience is aging and not a #### thing is being done to address that. Nor do you offer anything that will appeal to the younger generation But wait...i did. "Membership is mostly younger students (admit it), so the DCA schedule has to accommodate return to school for HS and college age people. That is mid-August. There is no real discussion that can start without this as a base line. Unless DCA suddenly attracts kids that aged out of junior from 2013-15 (and there are fewer of them than ever, especially on the east coast) then making this a bona fide WEEKEND activity for LOCAL kids who can actually PARTICIPATE without pissing off their band program is the only way to go. Then, i gave you the weekend schedule with the why's and wherefores. Good try, brother. Like I said, waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishbonecav Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 6 hours ago, C.Holland said: my last trip to rochester, i felt very young in the stands. very few band students. not saying this can't change, but perhaps marketing was a concern. where would be better? IF the marketing department can get their act together to sell tickets? The marketing department? I'm not sure its understood what DCA actually is. It's a handful of people who are decent organizers and get paid either a small stipend or nothing at all (most hours are volunteer) and run the circuit from home. The marketing department is every member past and present deciding to spread the word. That's the most people and the most effective. Suggesting the use of the alumni lists as a starting point didnt get much traction here and I believe that might be from misunderstanding what "DCA" is in the first place. Yes, being on that team for several years (pay: $0) gave me the opportunity to see it first hand. In many ways, it runs with spit and glue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, wishbonecav said: But wait...i did. "Membership is mostly younger students (admit it), so the DCA schedule has to accommodate return to school for HS and college age people. That is mid-August. There is no real discussion that can start without this as a base line. Unless DCA suddenly attracts kids that aged out of junior from 2013-15 (and there are fewer of them than ever, especially on the east coast) then making this a bona fide WEEKEND activity for LOCAL kids who can actually PARTICIPATE without pissing off their band program is the only way to go. Then, i gave you the weekend schedule with the why's and wherefores. Good try, brother. Like I said, waste of time. right. but what do you propose that will bring in kids to watch? Nothing you have mentioned does this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, wishbonecav said: The marketing department? I'm not sure its understood what DCA actually is. It's a handful of people who are decent organizers and get paid either a small stipend or nothing at all (most hours are volunteer) and run the circuit from home. The marketing department is every member past and present deciding to spread the word. That's the most people and the most effective. Suggesting the use of the alumni lists as a starting point didnt get much traction here and I believe that might be from misunderstanding what "DCA" is in the first place. Yes, being on that team for several years (pay: $0) gave me the opportunity to see it first hand. In many ways, it runs with spit and glue. considering a large number of alumni trash the product on the field, i'm not sure that segment is your best advertisement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishbonecav Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Read it again, Jeff. I know you cant wait to argue the point and be the smartest guy in the room, but "local band kids get in free" was a starting point. In my estimation, that's "something"; but I'm sure you'll maintain your 15 year track record of not giving an inch so you can dismiss it out of hand. It's boring and, not to belabor the phrase, a waste of time. If you don't want to expand on or root for other ideas or if you have all the answers, I can get you in touch with Allen. I'm sure you could do the same (or could have done the same long ago). Be well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, wishbonecav said: Read it again, Jeff. I know you cant wait to argue the point and be the smartest guy in the room, but "local band kids get in free" was a starting point. In my estimation, that's "something"; but I'm sure you'll maintain your 15 year track record of not giving an inch so you can dismiss it out of hand. It's boring and, not to belabor the phrase, a waste of time. If you don't want to expand on or root for other ideas or if you have all the answers, I can get you in touch with Allen. I'm sure you could do the same (or could have done the same long ago). Be well. I read your post 3 times before typing thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algernon Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) Jeez, can't we all just get along? Man you guys puff out your chests as defenders of whatever flame you think is sacred. Chill dudes. Edited August 29, 2019 by Algernon typo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: Eastern PA, Jersey. But that’s a decision for 2021 I was emailed about 2020 ticket sales for Williamsport today. im 50. I felt young last year Whereabouts in eastern PA/NJ, out of curiosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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