Will DCA be around in 5 years?


Will DCA be around in 5 years?  

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Alot of noise in this thread. Not much talk about expanding DCA out of the NE market. 

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On 11/3/2019 at 11:08 PM, Jeff Ream said:

true the lack of a video product the last few years has not helped

And yet anyone can search YouTube and find full show videos of all the World Class DCI corps from week 1, thru the Championships.  Does DCA think they are guarding some valuable intellectual property?

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45 minutes ago, VOReason said:

And yet anyone can search YouTube and find full show videos of all the World Class DCI corps from week 1, thru the Championships.  Does DCA think they are guarding some valuable intellectual property?

No they're too cheap to pay for licensing

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2 hours ago, camel lips said:

Alot of noise in this thread. Not much talk about expanding DCA out of the NE market. 

because the NE corps don't really seem to want to do that

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5 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

because the NE corps don't really seem to want to do that

Yep. That seems quite obvious now. Maybe has been for several years.

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1 hour ago, camel lips said:

Alot of noise in this thread. Not much talk about expanding DCA out of the NE market. 

 Why would a corps from New Jersey spend a truckload of money to travel to say.... Ohio or Georgia, to compete in a regular season contest? Why would they do this when traditionally, they've been able to have a full summer contest season and a championship finals right in their back yard? Is there a reason to spend that money? what are the benefits? If I was a corps director of an east coast DCA corps, those are the questions I'd be asking. Carpool 45 miles up or down I-95 to a contest, or charter two busses and go to Georgia for a contest that's held on a Sunday? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they'd be going to the contest that's only 45 miles away.

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2 hours ago, hairbear said:

 Why would a corps from New Jersey spend a truckload of money to travel to say.... Ohio or Georgia, to compete in a regular season contest? Why would they do this when traditionally, they've been able to have a full summer contest season and a championship finals right in their back yard? Is there a reason to spend that money? what are the benefits? If I was a corps director of an east coast DCA corps, those are the questions I'd be asking. Carpool 45 miles up or down I-95 to a contest, or charter two busses and go to Georgia for a contest that's held on a Sunday? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they'd be going to the contest that's only 45 miles away.

All good points, Steve. And they're coming from someone (you) who spent pretty much his entire DCA career traveling long distances (from Ohio) to get to rehearsals and shows.

But this goes to the whole "quid pro quo" thing that has been batted around for years. In order to help grow the circuit, perhaps spark some more interest in the South or Midwest, shouldn't the Northeast corps... in particular the headliner corps... travel to an "out of region" show once in a while, and why are the out-of-region corps expected to do pretty much all the traveling, and incur all those costs? I can't really blame the "traditional" corps for thinking the way they do, as you stated.... but still.

I don't have an easy answer to that. Or anything else.  :tongue: 

But perhaps we're now seeing, IMO, the results (intentional or not... I have no idea, and I'm not a mind reader) of a "traditional region only" approach.  14 corps at the championship, maybe fewer in the years to come, and not much awareness of DCA outside its traditional base.

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1 hour ago, Fran Haring said:

All good points, Steve. And they're coming from someone (you) who spent pretty much his entire DCA career traveling long distances (from Ohio) to get to rehearsals and shows.

But this goes to the whole "quid pro quo" thing that has been batted around for years. In order to help grow the circuit, perhaps spark some more interest in the South or Midwest, shouldn't the Northeast corps... in particular the headliner corps... travel to an "out of region" show once in a while, and why are the out-of-region corps expected to do pretty much all the traveling? I can't really blame the "traditional" corps for thinking the way they do, as you stated.... but still.

I don't have an easy answer to that. Or anything else.  :tongue: 

But perhaps we're now seeing, IMO, the results (intentional or not... I have no idea, and I'm not a mind reader) of a "traditional region only" approach.  14 corps at the championship, maybe fewer in the years to come, and not much awareness of DCA outside its traditional base.  Like I said... I have no idea. Just spitballin' here.  LOL.

I tried to respond, but something went south on me.... I'll try again.  stand by. 🙂

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1 hour ago, Fran Haring said:

All good points, Steve. And they're coming from someone (you) who spent pretty much his entire DCA career traveling long distances (from Ohio) to get to rehearsals and shows.

But this goes to the whole "quid pro quo" thing that has been batted around for years. In order to help grow the circuit, perhaps spark some more interest in the South or Midwest, shouldn't the Northeast corps... in particular the headliner corps... travel to an "out of region" show once in a while, and why are the out-of-region corps expected to do pretty much all the traveling? I can't really blame the "traditional" corps for thinking the way they do, as you stated.... but still.

I don't have an easy answer to that. Or anything else.  :tongue: 

But perhaps we're now seeing, IMO, the results (intentional or not... I have no idea, and I'm not a mind reader) of a "traditional region only" approach.  14 corps at the championship, maybe fewer in the years to come, and not much awareness of DCA outside its traditional base.  Like I said... I have no idea. Just spitballin' here.  LOL.

Ohio Brass Factory, Alliance Ohio. 1980 to 1983:  Four years in a row, sitting in the stands eating hotdogs and watching DCA finals instead of competing. Four years in a row just south of 12th place. How do you convince your corps members that this is a good way to spend a weekend?  The corps closed its doors after a 13th place finish in the 83 season.  A corps that was very well funded and managed. A corps that was loaded with talented folks. A corps that might have opened the Midwest up to DCA competition, years ago.  DCA was a hard nut to crack, in those days. Anyone from OBF that wanted to compete in DCA, went east. Yes, I was one of them.

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1 hour ago, hairbear said:

Ohio Brass Factory, Alliance Ohio. 1980 to 1983:  Four years in a row, sitting in the stands eating hotdogs and watching DCA finals instead of competing. Four years in a row just south of 12th place. How do you convince your corps members that this is a good way to spend a weekend?  The corps closed its doors after a 13th place finish in the 83 season.  A corps that was very well funded and managed. A corps that was loaded with talented folks. A corps that might have opened the Midwest up to DCA competition, years ago.  DCA was a hard nut to crack, in those days. Anyone from OBF that wanted to compete in DCA, went east. Yes, I was one of them.

I remember you guys at prelims in 1983. Not sure that was a non-top 12 corps, if you know what I mean.  LOL.

It was not easy for an "out of region" to break into that top 10. Boys of '76 in 1970... then MBI years later. And obviously the occasional Canadian corps.

Heck... for years, the Yankee Rebels were the outlier "southern corps." From Baltimore. The Deep South. :tongue:

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