Ghost Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Slingerland said: Is this thing dead yet? Wait, I just breathed life into it - ######! Yes we did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Still wondering if Ray Kimber hooked up with Daniel Ray. Daniel Ray Kimber I think they're the same guy. Edited December 22, 2019 by garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVG_DC Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 23 hours ago, garfield said: Still wondering if Ray Kimber hooked up with Daniel Ray. Daniel Ray Kimber I think they're the same guy. Alright contestants, the category is Before and After. Garfield, you're up first, give the wheel a spin and get us started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 12/7/2019 at 12:03 AM, Jeff Ream said: yeah i mean Rarick was only there since what.....02.....and the pit is the one place electronics would have benefitted from it...which he ran before he took total control? careful when you try to make certain arguments with people wtching that know names and dates Look at the change in positions and scoring starting with 01. Note the changes in staff thereafter. Winning a championship started in 01 and staff changes pressed on thereafter. I don't want to name names, but everybody knows that Rarick's movement was a necessary change. You seem to be suggesting that the changes that I am speaking about are ALL much more recent, but they aren't. So... no, you aren't calling me out on anything. '00 was an intentional redemption for the organization. Then everything changed for the Bluecoats in 01 with that show design and a focus on designing and teaching a competitive climb. Then the action started right away in 02 and following with gradual serious staff adjustments in various sections that needed attention (percussion being one and visual -design- being the biggest). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 hours ago, cfirwin3 said: Look at the change in positions and scoring starting with 01. Note the changes in staff thereafter. Winning a championship started in 01 and staff changes pressed on thereafter. I don't want to name names, but everybody knows that Rarick's movement was a necessary change. You seem to be suggesting that the changes that I am speaking about are ALL much more recent, but they aren't. So... no, you aren't calling me out on anything. '00 was an intentional redemption for the organization. Then everything changed for the Bluecoats in 01 with that show design and a focus on designing and teaching a competitive climb. Then the action started right away in 02 and following with gradual serious staff adjustments in various sections that needed attention (percussion being one and visual -design- being the biggest). winning started after 99. getting back into finals was step 1. and no, i know the who's and when's well. i only saw the 00 staff hiring start in Madison in 99 at HQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: winning started after 99. getting back into finals was step 1. and no, i know the who's and when's well. i only saw the 00 staff hiring start in Madison in 99 at HQ. I think I just said that "'00 was an intentional redemption for the organization.". Just note that there is a pretty big leap between the '00 and '01 years both in placement and in observable design. I'm not sure that we have any disagreement here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, cfirwin3 said: I think I just said that "'00 was an intentional redemption for the organization.". Just note that there is a pretty big leap between the '00 and '01 years both in placement and in observable design. I'm not sure that we have any disagreement here. yes and most of the same team. and 02 as well, also a noticeable jump. gotta love the 17055-17013 connection 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfirwin3 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, Jeff Ream said: yes and most of the same team. and 02 as well, also a noticeable jump. gotta love the 17055-17013 connection They definitely learned a lot in 01 that shifted the gears in 02. No doubt. That's how it has gone for them since. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 52 minutes ago, cfirwin3 said: They definitely learned a lot in 01 that shifted the gears in 02. No doubt. That's how it has gone for them since. indeed. glad to call friends and mentors those that got the boat back at sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Haring Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 1:33 PM, Jeff Ream said: indeed. glad to call friends and mentors those that got the boat back at sea 2000... the "right the ship" year. AKA Larry and Friends 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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