Jeff Ream Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: So how does this work if someone wants to run a corps that has a lower budget to meet and doesn’t want to do full tailed tour mode. At least that’s my understanding of WC and OC differences it means they are the red headed ######## step children 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: it means they are the red headed ######## step children The “Elite” and “oh yeah, them”..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: it means they are the red headed ######## step children It hasn’t changed in 20 plus years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: it means they are the red headed ######## step children 14 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: It hasn’t changed in 20 plus years. So why do all the old ladies dye their hair red if they don't let the grays turn blue? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn426 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 This criteria would have protected the dangerous conditions faced by members of the Magic Of Orlando, and the Teal Sound. From an outsiders perspective(Parents, Sponsors, general public) this is a good move for DCI as an entertainment entity. If they are putting their name on a product they have to guarantee its members are providing a World Class service to its members and staff. And to be honest most people we know in the industry have dreams of starting a drum corps, but realistically have no idea what they are doing and in some cases put their members in danger through poor planning or financial hardships. Not everyone is cut out to run a world class organization. These requirements should ensure that only those that have built up a corps with Strong bones and solid financial standing have the honor of being a World Class corps... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Windish Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 A little ‘back to the future here?’ When DCI was formed on Day 1, and for several years after, DCI was intended to be for the benefit of a TOP 12. A majority vote of those 12 determined what DCI did. The right to vote could be earned by scoring into the Top 12 at the next Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 hours ago, cixelsyd said: DCI has updated their Policies and Procedures Manual. It is available online at https://www.dci.org/static/about-drum-corps-international. The highlights are found about 82-85 pages into the document, in a section called "DCI Participation Levels". Included here are several revisions to what defines eligibility for world-class status. 1. A more deliberate distinction is made between "World Class Participant" and "World Class Member". Corps aspiring to WC membership must now spend two years as a WC participant, with reduced pay ($1800 per show vs. the standard $2600) and no voting rights. Membership must now vote you in twice, at both the WCP and WCM levels, for your corps to get in. And if you slip out of the top 25 along the way, the whole deal is off. 2. WC now has a membership minimum. Both WCP and WCM include among their definitions, "Number of performers 110 -154". 3. The bar for advancing from OC to WC appears to have been raised. See for yourself: Leadership/director must participate in a mentorship program in which an Open Class director will be paired with a WC Member for general guidance. May also be paired with subject matter expert(s) in specific areas of need Top 25 for 3 consecutive years Revenue in year 3 of this process should be at least $750k with positive earnings before depreciation A positive net worth of $50,000 or more in each of the past three fiscal years The budget for year 4 (first year in World Class) should include a surplus of $50,000. Financial Statement prepared by an Outside Accounting Firm (Financial Audit or Financial Review as required by your governing state) Independent Board defined by good governance best practices Monthly cash flow projection for year 4 (first year in World Class) Debt to equity ratio should be lower than 3 to 1, e.g. long-term lease, notes payable, accounts payable After the above criteria are met, then organization can request to become a World Class Participant Evaluation/interview by DCI CEO If recommended by CEO, organization presents to the DCI Board of Directors for potential ratification 4. And there is this - "After 3 consecutive years out of the top 25, membership status will be placed under review, to be voted on by the membership at the next membership meeting." In other words, such a corps could be voted down from WCM to WCP, with the corresponding pay cut and loss of voting rights. Did this go through a Rules Congress at some point that I have not noticed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, Glenn426 said: This criteria would have protected the dangerous conditions faced by members of the Magic Of Orlando, and the Teal Sound. No, they would not have. If you want to prevent situations like those, you need to apply criteria to everybody, not just new members. Most of these increasingly demanding criteria are merely a barrier to entry. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Terri Schehr said: It hasn’t changed in 20 plus years. at times you see some glimmer of maybe just maybe...then this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Glenn426 said: This criteria would have protected the dangerous conditions faced by members of the Magic Of Orlando, and the Teal Sound. From an outsiders perspective(Parents, Sponsors, general public) this is a good move for DCI as an entertainment entity. If they are putting their name on a product they have to guarantee its members are providing a World Class service to its members and staff. And to be honest most people we know in the industry have dreams of starting a drum corps, but realistically have no idea what they are doing and in some cases put their members in danger through poor planning or financial hardships. Not everyone is cut out to run a world class organization. These requirements should ensure that only those that have built up a corps with Strong bones and solid financial standing have the honor of being a World Class corps... Was around Teal volunteers at a parade mid season. Corps had been around a few years then went to crap for unknown (to me) reasons. Good to review a corps before allowing them in but lot of potential train wrecks already out there. Question: if Pioneer was still around would they be reviewed? Edited November 20, 2019 by JimF-LowBari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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