Jeff Ream Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said: Does it strike anyone else as odd that Encorps got confirmation that the rule would be in effect for 2020 from another corps rather than from DCI leadership? very 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said: Does it strike anyone else as odd that Encorps got confirmation that the rule would be in effect for 2020 from another corps rather than from DCI leadership? Is that the corps which tends to pull all the marionettes and puppets' strings in DCI? [I think they even flagrantly gave us that image in a show they did seasons back.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 11 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said: Is DCI for the member corps or is it for the Junior corps activity itself. Mission statement uses “participating organizations”. It seems that DCI is creating the same autocratic environment like the AL/VFW was doing in the early 1970s. And the result was that the Corps banded together & created DCI. DCI has turned itself into a self-licking ice cream cone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: It seems that DCI is creating the same autocratic environment like the AL/VFW was doing in the early 1970s. And the result was that the Corps banded together & created DCI. DCI has turned itself into a self-licking ice cream cone. Of course difference is AL/VFW admitted drum corps was only an activity of some posts. So no different from Legion ball or anything else that gave members and/or their kids something to do and show local Post pride. And Nationals was no more than some of the entertainment at national conventions. And DCIs whole reason for existing is.... Edited January 2, 2020 by JimF-LowBari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 30 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Of course difference is AL/VFW admitted drum corps was only an activity of some posts. So no different from Legion ball or anything else that gave members and/or their kids something to do and show local Post pride. And Nationals was no more than some of the entertainment at national conventions. And DCIs whole reason for existing is.... I know you are w/ DoD (Navy?) - so may be familiar w term Self-Licking Ice Cream Cone. Our 2-star used for certain programs (not mine!). When I was in DC I came to realize it applies to 75+% of Gov't Programs. And it certainly seems to apply to the current DCI regime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: I know you are w/ DoD (Navy?) - so may be familiar w term Self-Licking Ice Cream Cone. Our 2-star used for certain programs (not mine!). When I was in DC I came to realize it applies to 75+% of Gov't Programs. And it certainly seems to apply to the current DCI regime. I’m 100% DoD civilian with the Navy and new term with me but I figured it out without google lol.... What my IT agency has been dealing with for years is getting rid of “duplication of effort”. Translation for everyone else: more than one project/IT application doing the same #### thing. My “SLICC” was the little Unix system we were being paid to maintain. Finally someone asked what it was used for and no one knew. So we turned it off and no one noticed. 😫 Edited January 2, 2020 by JimF-LowBari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbc03 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said: It seems that DCI is creating the same autocratic environment like the AL/VFW was doing in the early 1970s. And the result was that the Corps banded together & created DCI. DCI has turned itself into a self-licking ice cream cone. The corps aren't going to break off and form a new organization that they run because they already have it. DCI is already the corps. The non-member corps could theoretically break off and form their own organization, but I doubt it would be particularly successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, JimF-LowBari said: Of course difference is AL/VFW admitted drum corps was only an activity of some posts. So no different from Legion ball or anything else that gave members and/or their kids something to do and show local Post pride. And Nationals was no more than some of the entertainment at national conventions. And DCIs whole reason for existing is.... DCI as always been about the members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: DCI as always been about the members Serious question: was DCI membership required of corps in 1972 and other early years as a requirement to participate in DCI championships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: DCI as always been about the members now define “members” on dcp and pass the popcorn. lol..... Edited January 2, 2020 by JimF-LowBari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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