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3 minutes ago, Poppycock said:

Unless that’s the goal! 

The conspiracy theorists is strong in this one.....

Yes, DCI wants to undo decades of branding so someone can play a piccolo solo....

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50 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

Ya know you can be cool when not being rude

Whatever.

I don’t live to be judged by you or anyone else.

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8 minutes ago, Spatzzz said:

The conspiracy theorists is strong in this one.....

Yes, DCI wants to undo decades of branding so someone can play a piccolo solo....

Careful.  “Rude” seems to be the word of the day.

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1 hour ago, Old Corps Guy said:

Let me put this in a way currently being debated in our country.  The idea of adding even more expenses to an activity that has expenses spiraling out of control is like Socialism.  It's sounds like a great idea until you run out of other peoples money.

Oops, I started a political arguement. 

:fight:

And a way to keep instructors from adding more expense to the activity is to have them participate in the budget process. Many schools are finding that saying you have “X” dollars, spend it wisely leads to waste. If instructors have wild ideas, they should be asked “how do we pay for this?”  Very often when this is done, more economical solutions can be found. 

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12 minutes ago, Spatzzz said:

The conspiracy theorists is strong in this one.....

Yes, DCI wants to undo decades of branding so someone can play a piccolo solo....

Nice try! But no conspiracy theory. One thing that won’t change - those naughty little Devils will continue to be the pinnacle of success. 

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2 hours ago, Slingerland said:

They also have a worse idea of what the financial impact is on their organizations than the people who have to pay the bills.

Changing the guard sheets will cost the corps and DCI $0. That's the type of change that falls into the purview of instructors, and the types of rules changes that they should be focused on. Changing rules that require the outlays of tens of thousands of dollars for corps in order to stay competitive with each other is not in the interest of the activity. If they want a major change like that, it should only be undertaken after a thorough review and analysis process that includes ALL of the players impacted, including Board members of the member corps and Exec Directors, as they will, in the end, be the ones most impacted. 

Do you have examples of corps where the instructors’ requests have bankrupt the corps? If this has happened, the problem is not instructors adding unnecessary items to a budget, it is leadership allowing it. 

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Woke up today... the sun was out, the Earth had not spun off its axis. 

Looking forward now. To the CFP championship game. :tongue:

After that, whatever. LOL

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29 minutes ago, Tim K said:

And a way to keep instructors from adding more expense to the activity is to have them participate in the budget process. Many schools are finding that saying you have “X” dollars, spend it wisely leads to waste. If instructors have wild ideas, they should be asked “how do we pay for this?”  Very often when this is done, more economical solutions can be found. 

There's far too much logic in this statement. This is the same in generally every industry that exists. Ideas generally cost money and I've found that ideas that don't cost money, generally don't get much traction and even when they do, they are short term solutions with little true impact. I remember as a very young instructional designer sitting in a big office in Atlanta with Bernie Marcus and Arthur Blank talking through some Tier 1 training for their first Home Depot call center concept. We had a great plan (we thought,) but when the question came to "how much will it cost? Who is paying for it and what is the impact," I didn't have those answers. Welcome to project management 101...the hard way. DCI is a business...plain and simple. And to put an idea out there without being able to show proof of concept is just plain silly IMHO. 

There...I'm now ready for the 'Ok Boomer" comments...even though I like 25 to 30 years too young. 

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2 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

That was ripped up at Franklin Field so it never left Philly. It’s probably long gone from the South Jersey landfill 

Along side Jimmy Hoffa?  Wait, he was cremated.  Never mind... 😂😎

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2 hours ago, Tim K said:

Do you have examples of corps where the instructors’ requests have bankrupt the corps? If this has happened, the problem is not instructors adding unnecessary items to a budget, it is leadership allowing it. 

DCI is considering this weekend whether to allow a current member corps to go on tour this summer or not, in part because they’re carrying hundreds of thousands in debt. Anything that puts financial pressure on a corps to keep up with the fill-in-the-blanks in order to stay competitive is part of that process.

In terms of bringing staffs into the budgeting process, many if not most WC corps already do that. The problem is that OTHER corps’ staffs aren’t part of their budgeting process, so what feels like no big deal to the Blue Devils’ budget might be a significant strain to Phantom Regiment’s - but PR is in a situation where they realize they have to keep up in the hardware race or suffer some consequences when the judges tell their members that they’re not competitive because their $200,000 sound system sucks in comparison to someone else’s $350,000 worth of mics/speakers/amps, etc.

It’s why I said that financially impacting rules changes should be considered by ALL players - instructors being ONE, but not the only, group to evaluate the changes early in the process.

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