wolfgang Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Assuming Carolina Gold gets approved and no one folds/goes inactive, there should be 40 corps in Prelims (22 WC and 18 OC/DCUK), not counting any additional international groups that may enter. My question: Is there a max # of corps DCI will allow for WC Prelims? If there is, I presume the highest placing Open corps would compete up until the max# is met and bottom placing Open corps would be out, but that's just a guess. In the modern era, they've always been able to find room in the schedue for all the Open and World corps, but hypothetically if there were 46 or 48 total corps, would DCI have to institute a quota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 There have been a few years where we have had 40 corps. The start time is 9 AM with the first corps beginning about 9:20. I will admit it is a bit different to have coffee and packaged muffins as munchies at a drum corps show. If you do go that early, know the coffee is not that great. The day ends around midnight, so it’s a full day. They could probably start a bit earlier, say 8 AM and fit a few more corps in the line up. My guess is would be too expensive to have some corps compete on Wednesday. Another factor would be Lucas Oil Stadium. Do they allow events to start as early as 8AM? It could mean overtime for employees (security and maintenance) and that may make it costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 DCI just instituted a new 55-member minimum bar that OC corps must clear in 2020. They also developed a raft of new requirements for entry to OC. I doubt the number of corps competing at championship prelims will rise in the near future. They handled 41 competitors in the first all-inclusive "World Championship Prelims", held in 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ykw Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tim K said: There have been a few years where we have had 40 corps. The start time is 9 AM with the first corps beginning about 9:20. I will admit it is a bit different to have coffee and packaged muffins as munchies at a drum corps show. If you do go that early, know the coffee is not that great. The day ends around midnight, so it’s a full day. They could probably start a bit earlier, say 8 AM and fit a few more corps in the line up. My guess is would be too expensive to have some corps compete on Wednesday. Another factor would be Lucas Oil Stadium. Do they allow events to start as early as 8AM? It could mean overtime for employees (security and maintenance) and that may make it costly. BOA Grand Nationals semi-finals have had performances as early at 6:15 AM https://marching.musicforall.org/event/grandnationals19/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, wolfgang said: Assuming Carolina Gold gets approved and no one folds/goes inactive, there should be 40 corps in Prelims (22 WC and 18 OC/DCUK), not counting any additional international groups that may enter. My question: Is there a max # of corps DCI will allow for WC Prelims? If there is, I presume the highest placing Open corps would compete up until the max# is met and bottom placing Open corps would be out, but that's just a guess. In the modern era, they've always been able to find room in the schedue for all the Open and World corps, but hypothetically if there were 46 or 48 total corps, would DCI have to institute a quota? According to DCX, in 1973 there were 48 Corps in prelims; 46 corps in 1975; 47 Corps in 76; and so forth. And this is what is now called 'World Class' prelims - Class A (now called Open class) adds another 20-30 Corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ykw said: BOA Grand Nationals semi-finals have had performances as early at 6:15 AM https://marching.musicforall.org/event/grandnationals19/ And that was following two long days of Prelims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said: According to DCX, in 1973 there were 48 Corps in prelims; 46 corps in 1975; 47 Corps in 76; and so forth. And this is what is now called 'World Class' prelims - Class A (now called Open class) adds another 20-30 Corps. yeah but in the 70's they often spread it over 2 days 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: yeah but in the 70's they often spread it over 2 days True - I would think it would be difficult for judges to maintain the same standard as to what constituted a tick from one day to the next. The obvious ticks are easy, but the threshold for marginal ticks could slip one way or the other I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: According to DCX, in 1973 there were 48 Corps in prelims; 46 corps in 1975; 47 Corps in 76; and so forth. And this is what is now called 'World Class' prelims - Class A (now called Open class) adds another 20-30 Corps. And prelims and finals were on the same day. I don’t even think I took my uni off between prelims and finals in 76. Edited March 3, 2020 by Terri Schehr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgang Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 The problem is there is a set time for the cinema broadcast. When that time comes, there are 15 corps left. They can't stretch it later. In theory DCI could move the start time earlier, but at some point it seems counterproductive. DCI isn't (yet) BOA, and the 9am start has worked well. Even if the numbers grow, I could see a cap on number of corps in place before they would do a 6:15 am start time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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