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If Current DCI Model Gets Cut Back...

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..... will they come...

Let us say 2021 there is a DCI season. But due to expenses and lost 2020 revenues Corps (some/many/most) cut back on touring, instructors, etc. Will younger people still want to join a corps like before? Will we still see hundreds come out like before? And if some corps can still do full tour, will people just try out for those corps and stay home if they don’t make it?

As a wild card how much will the economy and money losses in 2020 affect people trying out for corps?

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39 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:

..... will they come...

Let us say 2021 there is a DCI season. But due to expenses and lost 2020 revenues Corps (some/many/most) cut back on touring, instructors, etc. Will younger people still want to join a corps like before? Will we still see hundreds come out like before? And if some corps can still do full tour, will people just try out for those corps and stay home if they don’t make it?

As a wild card how much will the economy and money losses in 2020 affect people trying out for corps?

I am going to guess there will be minimal auditions/tryouts due to extending contracts from this year to next. And age out extensions too.  This may also force corps to use their 2020 show for 2021.  That would save on design, instructor, prop costs.  There may be a tour reduction because some corps or show sponsors can’t afford to run the shows. Along with possibly losing corps, we may be losing sponsors; brass manufacturers, percussion manufacturers, uniform and equipment providers and so on.  On the plus side, corps will have time to do a financial reset, as best they can.  No matter what, there will be a different look in 2021 in all aspects; tour, corps staffing and admin.

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Jim, as you might remember, with regard to DCA, where the amount of member field competitors is half of what it was a short while ago, all is not lost.  Even a few less corps there can be utilized in a manner that will produce the same amount of net revenue as when the amount of groups was significantly greater.

Similarly, although not ideal, a smaller body of DCI can get through this just fine.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, LabMaster said:

I am going to guess there will be minimal auditions/tryouts due to extending contracts from this year to next. And age out extensions too.  This may also force corps to use their 2020 show for 2021.  That would save on design, instructor, prop costs.  There may be a tour reduction because some corps or show sponsors can’t afford to run the shows. Along with possibly losing corps, we may be losing sponsors; brass manufacturers, percussion manufacturers, uniform and equipment providers and so on.  On the plus side, corps will have time to do a financial reset, as best they can.  No matter what, there will be a different look in 2021 in all aspects; tour, corps staffing and admin.

Don’t forget possibly less facilities for corps to house, practice and have show sites. In the past I’ve said about school boards less likely to allow facilities to be used by “outsiders”. Now there would be the fear (right or wrong) of diseases from other areas being brought in the facilities.

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5 minutes ago, LabMaster said:

I am going to guess there will be minimal auditions/tryouts due to extending contracts from this year to next. And age out extensions too.  This may also force corps to use their 2020 show for 2021.  That would save on design, instructor, prop costs.  .

Cadets webpage said they are using the 2020 show, not even a maybe. Also, they plan on the same staff.

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8 minutes ago, Fred Windish said:

Jim, as you might remember, with regard to DCA, where the amount of member field competitors is half of what it was a short while ago, all is not lost.  Even a few less corps there can be utilized in a manner that will produce the same amount of net revenue as when the amount of groups was significantly greater.

Similarly, although not ideal, a smaller body of DCI can get through this just fine.

 

 

Understand what you’re saying Fred. Trying to get ideas of what people think it might look like. Not going to say “new normal” as hate that term....🤮

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47 minutes ago, LabMaster said:

I am going to guess there will be minimal auditions/tryouts due to extending contracts from this year to next. And age out extensions too.  This may also force corps to use their 2020 show for 2021.  That would save on design, instructor, prop costs.  There may be a tour reduction because some corps or show sponsors can’t afford to run the shows. Along with possibly losing corps, we may be losing sponsors; brass manufacturers, percussion manufacturers, uniform and equipment providers and so on.  On the plus side, corps will have time to do a financial reset, as best they can.  No matter what, there will be a different look in 2021 in all aspects; tour, corps staffing and admin.

Organization recruiting plans revised to recruit aggressively upwards of 350 mile radius, due to the expectation of a reduction in long distant membership participation. The outcome of these efforts will determine the need for spring training facilities if needed at all. Shorter touring season and venue changes too. Reduced staff size and staff budgets, and tighter control of all capital expenditures. Certainly some organizations will be more limited in overall operating cost than others. LabMaster is right that there will be a different look in 2021. Who's going to manage each organizations performance schedule is very uncertain.

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Life won't be back to normal until 2022.

That doesn't mean it will be the way it is now for two years, but until there's a vaccine --fall 2021 at the earliest, by most estimates-- it will not be safe to gather in large groups.

However, it can be made much safer than it is with robust regular testing and quick containment efforts.

That means probably 1 million Americans being tested every day. (We're currently doing about 10% of that.) Not just people who are sick, but random people everywhere.

And you get your temperature taken every time you try to enter a building, and if it shows you have a fever, you don't go in (unless it's your home).

And if you test positive, your state government isolates you in a quarantine facility until you test negative (treating you if you develop symptoms), and anyone you've had contact with in the past two weeks gets put in a hotel room until two weeks have passed since they interacted with you.

The epidemiologists probably do the contact tracing via some sort of app on your phone that gives them a good record of every other phone (and its owner) you've been close to. It's going to be weird and seriously intrusive. But it's the only possible alternative to staying locked down until there's a vaccine. If these steps don't happen, we get New York levels of infection all over again, but in lots of places.

(Read about what's going to be necessary here: Getting Down to Planning the Next Year and the Interim New Normal.)

A minor quirk: you'll be expected to wear a mask every time you're in a crowded place. (Also handshaking likely is going to become a thing of the past.)

And every time there's a flare-up in a community, that area goes back into lock-down mode for a few weeks. But hopefully the steps above keep that to a minimum.

One other thing that would help: antiviral and therapeutic drugs.

Even with all that happening, probably 20% of the population is going to be nervous and will stay home as much as possible.

Plus obviously this means the economy continues to be shaky.

One positive from this: the number of people contracting all infectious diseases, including colds and flus, will drop.

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So assuming we can vastly increase our testing capacity and put the other necessary procedures in place:

--People aren't going to have as much money to spend on entertainment. And a number of them won't want to be in crowds. This will apply to members, too (the specific subject you're inquiring about).

--Some event locations might suddenly be under shelter-in-place orders in the middle of DCI's tour, meaning shows are cancelled. Imagine if it happens in Indianapolis in August.

--An entire corps might suddenly be quarantined for two weeks when one of their members falls ill.

For these and other reasons, it's likely some corps will fold.

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I didn't know we had a resident Seer. How cool that someone can predict the future! 

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20 minutes ago, Incognito365 said:

I didn't know we had a resident Seer. How cool that someone can predict the future! 

Asking people what they see for 2021 and NEB gave it so don’t see a problem. 
 

Only thing I’m not sure of is if taking temperature is foolproof. Coronavirus  can be asymptomatic so can one have it and not have a temperature?

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