supersop Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 So much to say about 86 ... but I think I'll try a different angle. Since the massive shift in design demand caused by Garfield from 82-85 .... Other corps were playing catch up visually .. but were also innovating in other areas that most don't give them credit for. If they weren't innovating they were just #### good in specific areas of the corps, but maybe not "overall". VK battery was playing some tasty notes. Probably the most interesting book on the field that year.... FIGHT ME! PR was still doing 1981 drill, but actually had a couple of blind backward marching moves. The all french horn mid-voice was SPECTACULAR! Sky Ryders taught us all how to tell a story .... and still keep it drum corps. Very innovative. Spirit's color guard was a good 5 years ahead of the rest of the world. They were incredible!!!! The 86 book reminds me a lot of 94 Cadets ... go figure. Suncoast had an incredible brass and bass section. They marched pretty darn good too. Battery book in the drum solo was very unique (they definitely had their own sound). Cavies visual program ... Brubaker was answering Zingali. His own way. This was the only corps keeping some kind of pace with Garfield visually. Battery tuning was gorgeous (I MISS THIS SOUND) SCV was pushing boundaries with the props/magic tricks. Great in every segment of the corps... and was my personal favorite for at least 10 years after the fact. BD - I hated ... until I grew up and started to understand JAZZ. So clean. So Powerful. An exquisite execution of a superb vehicle. Troopers made me very nostalgic. HOW? I was only 15. But they made me proud of the activity and my country. But their poor horns were beat to hell from smashing on the belt buckles going to parade rest. Loud and intimidating .. but I cried for those bugles. Garfield .. 13 guard - 84 horns ... limit 128 members. Yeah, Innovative. The first 2/3 of that show was championship worthy. My personal favorite 8 minutes of drum corps that summer. Star = Jim Prime brass book (OMGAHHHH) + Guard wigs and black lipstick + the first 16 contra feature EVER. Brass was flexing. The rest needed help. Madison had a pretty cool show. Opening move - Highest soloist notes to date - Starlight Express - Harlem Suite was a stone cold killer. If I tried to stay any more positive than that ... I might implode. I spent most of the summer touring with Troopers, Star, Madison, Cavies, Marion Cadets, Coachmen, Bandettes, PR, Bluecoats, Glassmen, Dutch Boy, Geneseo Knights, Railmen and the rest of the Midwest Gang. Other corps that impressed me specifically ... Loved Dutch Boy's show (it was just fun as hell), Les Eclipses were so French Canadian and slick I swore they were smoking on the field... GREAT CORPS!, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 An entire hornline changes pants during the show, and nobody talks about it -- is that because they did an even better job with that trick the previous year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersop Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 minute ago, N.E. Brigand said: An entire hornline changes pants during the show, and nobody talks about it -- is that because they did an even better job with that trick the previous year? To me .. that falls under the props comment in my post. 1st year after velcro was invented .. and yes it was an awesome effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Lancer Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, supersop said: To me .. that falls under the props comment in my post. 1st year after velcro was invented .. and yes it was an awesome effect. Ummm, 27 used Velcro to go from a single flag to a double flag back in the ‘70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84BDsop Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: i know many people weren't happy there was no Danny Boy Unfortunately, the drum line could only keep them in finals for so long. And there was no Danny Boy in 84, either...they didn't play it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersop Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jurassic Lancer said: Ummm, 27 used Velcro to go from a single flag to a double flag back in the ‘70s. WOW... I was only off by 31 years. Must have been a drum corps urban legend I've believed all these years..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 8 hours ago, supersop said: 1st year after velcro was invented .. and yes it was an awesome effect. 8 hours ago, Jurassic Lancer said: Ummm, 27 used Velcro to go from a single flag to a double flag back in the ‘70s. I thought the Vulcan's invented velcro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISP Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Tim K said: I am pretty sure I was at the Malden show and I seem to remember a 27th do-over. Though do-overs were not common in Boston area shows, they were not uncommon either. A favorite do-over excuse at Eastern Mass and CYO circuit shows, and maybe Mayflower, the third circuit was a problem with the “timing and penalty” judge. It was probably as legit as the poor color guard member who had problems dropping the rifle who just happened to have her arm in a sling at a critical show where a tenth or two could change everything. 1986 may have been a bit late for these stunts, and the judges may not have been local, but old habits die hard. Regarding the booing of 27th, I can’t recall that either, but I do not question it. Drum corps fans can be passionate. I can recall shows I attended in Malden, Everett, Lynn, or Revere being either calm and enjoyable or explosions waiting to happen. It didn’t seem to be the case in Beverly or Boston, or the shows In the suburbs, Swansea, or Pittsfield. As I’m sure you know since you competed against both corps, BAC hated 27th with a passion. They didn’t exactly love Madison or Bridgemen either. 27th didn’t have much love for BAC though they could often appear to be above the fray. By 1986, the heated relationship between marching members in both corps had simmered. The 1986 27th membership had lots of kids who had marched with Memphis Blues and Avant Garde and BAC had changed too, but there were fans in the stand who still had strong feelings. The do-over was due to a crazy thunder storm that popped up in the middle of our show. I don't remember booing. I have a memory of the Troopers drum major apologizing to us, maybe for Troopers members breaking our ranks???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 15 hours ago, 84BDsop said: Suncoast, in fact, beat BD in field brass at finals. After looking at the recaps, it seemed interesting that they received the 9.9 before other corps went on after them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 17 hours ago, 84BDsop said: Suncoast, in fact, beat BD in field brass at finals. I didn't realize this. I'm not surprised although I might have had BD on top in brass field and GE at Finals. But Suncoast Sound had a beast of a brass line in 1986. They were incredibly good during a number of those years in the 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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