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For ease of reference, here's the list (source: From the Pressbox) of all 12th and 13th place corps in the show immediately preceding Finals:

1972 -- Bridgemen 12th 78.55 -- Garfield Cadets 13th 78.45

1973 -- Belleville Black Knights 12th 76.55 -- DeLaSalle Oaklands 13th 75.55

1974 -- Blue Stars 12th 79.40 ... Falcon Cadets 13th 76.95

1975 -- Troopers 12th 79.60 -- Squires 13th 79.45

1976 -- Seneca Optimists 12th 83.50 -- Troopers 13th 82.75

1977 -- Garfield Cadets & Kilties 12th (tie) 84.45 -- Anaheim Kingsmen 14th 83.60 *

1978 -- Kilties 12th 79.95 -- Freelancers 13th 79.20

1979 -- Troopers 12th 81.90 -- Crossmen 13th 81.70

1980 -- North Star 12th 79.35 -- Blue Stars 13th 77.05

1981 -- Freelancers 12th 80.05 -- North Star 13th 79.85

1982 -- Cavaliers 12th 83.10 -- Suncoast Sound 13th 81.10

1983 -- Sky Ryders 12th 78.70 -- Crossmen 13th 78.60

1984 -- Velvet Knights 12th 85.90 -- Troopers 13th 85.20

1985 -- Freelancers 12th 85.90 -- 27th Lancers 13th 85.20

1986 -- Troopers 12th 85.90 -- 27th Lancers 13th 85.60

1987 -- Sky Ryders 12th 85.30 -- Florida Wave 13th 84.70

1988 -- Sky Ryders 12th 86.60 -- Dutch Boy 13th 86.40

1989 -- Crossmen 12th 85.80 -- Dutch Boy 13th 85.50

1990 -- Dutch Boy 12th 86.30 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.40

1991 -- Sky Ryders 12th 85.10 -- Dutch Boy 13th 84.60

1992 -- Freelancers 12th 84.00 -- Glassmen 13th 83.90

1993 -- Colts 12th 84.20 -- Velvet Knights 13th 83.10

1994 -- Colts 12th 83.00 -- Boston Crusaders 13th 82.60

1995 -- Magic of Orlando 12th 81.90 -- Blue Knights 13th 81.30

1996 -- Blue Knights 12th 84.60 -- Glassmen 13th 82.70

1997 -- Carolina Crown 12th 85.90 -- Colts 13th 84.10

1998 -- Carolina Crown 12th 86.90 -- Magic of Orlando 13th 85.00

1999 -- Colts 12th 85.20 -- Bluecoats 13th 83.00

2000 -- Bluecoats 12th 85.15 -- Southwind 13th 84.95

2001 -- Colts 12th 85.95 -- Spirit 13th 84.05

2002 -- Seattle Cascades 12th 85.95 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.50

2003 -- Spirit 12th 85.50 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.35

2004 -- Glassmen 12th 86.375 -- Spirit 13th 86.300

2005 -- Spirit 12th 85.757 -- Colts 13th 84.075

2006 -- Spirit 12th 85.275 -- Colts 13th 83.050

2007 -- Spirit 12th 85.500 -- Academy 13th 84.500

2008 -- Madison Scouts 12th 86.375 -- Crossmen 13th 85.950

2009 -- Troopers 12th 85.90 -- Colts 13th 85.60

2010 -- Glassmen 12th 86.50 -- Colts 13th 86.45

2011 -- Spirit of Atlanta 12th 86.55 -- Glassmen 13th 83.40

2012 -- Crossmen 12th 84.90 -- Blue Stars 13th 84.60

2013 -- Blue Stars 12th 86.20 -- Troopers 13th 86.05

2014 -- Crossmen 12th 85.45 -- Colts 13th 85.35

2015 -- Crossmen 12th 83.875 -- Troopers 13th 83.800

2016 -- Boston Crusaders 12th 85.525 -- Madison Scouts 13th 85.263

2017 -- Madison Scouts 12th 86.475 -- Mandarins 13th 85.550

2018 -- Crossmen 12th 87.2500 -- Spirit of Atlanta 13th 85.5875

2019 -- Phantom Regiment 12th 87.775 -- Spirit of Atlanta 13th 85.587

*Bridgemen placed 3rd in Prelims in 1977, were disqualified because it was found they had marched underage members, got a court injunction allowing them to compete in Finals (where they placed 4th), and then lost their case in binding arbitration, where their disqualification was upheld. Additionally, two corps tied for 12th in Prelims, so there were 13 corps in Finals.

Looking back at the earliest years, it's fascinating to see that junior corps continued to compete in other shows well after DCI championships: not only at the American Legion and/or VFW, but other shows even into September. And some of them had shows as early as mid-May.

Corrections welcome.

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The answer has to be 2000 Southwind. They were 12th or better in every single caption and 13th overall. The only top 12 corps in history to not make finals.   Z

We had a terrible winter after missing finals in 77.  Everybody bailed except a few dozen diehard loyalists,  like me.  Just a disaster until the spring.  The corps hired Tim Salzman and Scott Wagner

2020 is no gem either 

50 minutes ago, ftwdrummer said:

Offhand: Troopers 2013. XMen 2008 (by far the most tolerable of the Guidry shows). SOUTHWIND 2000.

From the past decade, Troopers 2013 was the first that came to mind for me. For a brief moment as scores were being announced, it looked like they might have made Finals.

Another one: I prefer Madison's 2016 show to Boston's, but didn't really care much for either.

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1 hour ago, Jurassic Lancer said:

Crossmen 1979.

Troopers were great in 12th place, but Crossmen should have been somewhere around 8th place.

But but they were the first and only associate champions.  What a fiasco that was. 

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27 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said:

For ease of reference, here's the list (source: From the Pressbox) of all 12th and 13th place corps in the show immediately preceding Finals:

1972 -- Bridgemen 12th 78.55 -- Garfield Cadets 13th 78.45

1973 -- Belleville Black Knights 12th 76.55 -- DeLaSalle Oaklands 13th 75.55

1974 -- Blue Stars 12th 79.40 ... Falcon Cadets 13th 76.95

1975 -- Troopers 12th 79.60 -- Squires 13th 79.45

1976 -- Seneca Optimists 12th 83.50 -- Troopers 13th 82.75

1977 -- Garfield Cadets & Kilties 12th (tie) 84.45 -- Anaheim Kingsmen 14th 83.60 *

1978 -- Kilties 12th 79.95 -- Freelancers 13th 79.20

1979 -- Troopers 12th 81.90 -- Crossmen 13th 81.70

1980 -- North Star 12th 79.35 -- Troopers 13th 77.05

1981 -- Freelancers 12th 80.05 -- North Star 13th 79.85

1982 -- Cavaliers 12th 83.10 -- Suncoast Sound 13th 81.10

1983 -- Sky Ryders 12th 78.70 -- Crossmen 13th 78.60

1984 -- Velvet Knights 12th 85.90 -- Troopers 13th 85.20

1985 -- Freelancers 12th 85.90 -- 27th Lancers 13th 85.20

1986 -- Troopers 12th 85.90 -- 27th Lancers 13th 85.60

1987 -- Sky Ryders 12th 85.30 -- Florida Wave 13th 84.70

1988 -- Sky Ryders 12th 86.60 -- Dutch Boy 13th 86.40

1989 -- Crossmen 12th 85.80 -- Dutch Boy 13th 85.50

1990 -- Dutch Boy 12th 86.30 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.40

1991 -- Sky Ryders 12th 85.10 -- Dutch Boy 13th 84.60

1992 -- Freelancers 12th 84.00 -- Glassmen 13th 83.90

1993 -- Colts 12th 84.20 -- Velvet Knights 13th 83.10

1994 -- Colts 12th 83.00 -- Boston Crusaders 13th 82.60

1995 -- Magic of Orlando 12th 81.90 -- Blue Knights 13th 81.30

1996 -- Blue Knights 12th 84.60 -- Glassmen 13th 82.70

1997 -- Carolina Crown 12th 85.90 -- Colts 13th 84.10

1998 -- Carolina Crown 12th 86.90 -- Magic of Orlando 13th 85.00

1999 -- Colts 12th 85.20 -- Bluecoats 13th 83.00

2000 -- Bluecoats 12th 85.15 -- Southwind 13th 84.95

2001 -- Colts 12th 85.95 -- Spirit 13th 84.05

2002 -- Seattle Cascades 12th 85.95 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.50

2003 -- Spirit 12th 85.50 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.35

2004 -- Glassmen 12th 86.375 -- Spirit 13th 86.300

2005 -- Spirit 12th 85.757 -- Colts 13th 84.075

2006 -- Spirit 12th 85.275 -- Colts 13th 83.050

2007 -- Spirit 12th 85.500 -- Academy 13th 84.500

2008 -- Madison Scouts 12th 86.375 -- Crossmen 13th 85.950

2009 -- Troopers 12th 85.90 -- Colts 13th 85.60

2010 -- Glassmen 12th 86.50 -- Colts 13th 86.45

2011 -- Spirit of Atlanta 12th 86.55 -- Glassmen 13th 83.40

2012 -- Crossmen 12th 84.90 -- Blue Stars 13th 84.60

2013 -- Blue Stars 12th 86.20 -- Troopers 13th 86.05

2014 -- Crossmen 12th 85.45 -- Colts 13th 85.35

2015 -- Crossmen 12th 83.875 -- Troopers 13th 83.800

2016 -- Boston Crusaders 12th 85.525 -- Madison Scouts 13th 85.263

2017 -- Madison Scouts 12th 86.475 -- Mandarins 13th 85.550

2018 -- Crossmen 12th 87.2500 -- Spirit of Atlanta 13th 85.5875

2019 -- Phantom Regiment 12th 87.775 -- Spirit of Atlanta 13th 85.587

*Bridgemen placed 3rd in Prelims in 1977, were disqualified because it was found they had marched underage members, got a court injunction allowing them to compete in Finals (where they placed 4th), and then lost their case in binding arbitration, where their disqualification was upheld. Additionally, two corps tied for 12th in Prelims, so there were 13 corps in Finals.

Looking back at the earliest years, it's fascinating to see that junior corps continued to compete in other shows well after DCI championships: not only at the American Legion and/or VFW, but other shows even into September. And some of them had shows as early as mid-May.

Corrections welcome.

The funny thing about early on in DCI,  because of how prelims were held, most of those 12th place corps moved up in finals. 

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33 minutes ago, N.E. Brigand said:

For ease of reference, here's the list (source: From the Pressbox) of all 12th and 13th place corps in the show immediately preceding Finals:

1972 -- Bridgemen 12th 78.55 -- Garfield Cadets 13th 78.45

1973 -- Belleville Black Knights 12th 76.55 -- DeLaSalle Oaklands 13th 75.55

1974 -- Blue Stars 12th 79.40 ... Falcon Cadets 13th 76.95

1975 -- Troopers 12th 79.60 -- Squires 13th 79.45

1976 -- Seneca Optimists 12th 83.50 -- Troopers 13th 82.75

1977 -- Garfield Cadets & Kilties 12th (tie) 84.45 -- Anaheim Kingsmen 14th 83.60 *

1978 -- Kilties 12th 79.95 -- Freelancers 13th 79.20

1979 -- Troopers 12th 81.90 -- Crossmen 13th 81.70

1980 -- North Star 12th 79.35 -- Troopers 13th 77.05

1981 -- Freelancers 12th 80.05 -- North Star 13th 79.85

1982 -- Cavaliers 12th 83.10 -- Suncoast Sound 13th 81.10

1983 -- Sky Ryders 12th 78.70 -- Crossmen 13th 78.60

1984 -- Velvet Knights 12th 85.90 -- Troopers 13th 85.20

1985 -- Freelancers 12th 85.90 -- 27th Lancers 13th 85.20

1986 -- Troopers 12th 85.90 -- 27th Lancers 13th 85.60

1987 -- Sky Ryders 12th 85.30 -- Florida Wave 13th 84.70

1988 -- Sky Ryders 12th 86.60 -- Dutch Boy 13th 86.40

1989 -- Crossmen 12th 85.80 -- Dutch Boy 13th 85.50

1990 -- Dutch Boy 12th 86.30 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.40

1991 -- Sky Ryders 12th 85.10 -- Dutch Boy 13th 84.60

1992 -- Freelancers 12th 84.00 -- Glassmen 13th 83.90

1993 -- Colts 12th 84.20 -- Velvet Knights 13th 83.10

1994 -- Colts 12th 83.00 -- Boston Crusaders 13th 82.60

1995 -- Magic of Orlando 12th 81.90 -- Blue Knights 13th 81.30

1996 -- Blue Knights 12th 84.60 -- Glassmen 13th 82.70

1997 -- Carolina Crown 12th 85.90 -- Colts 13th 84.10

1998 -- Carolina Crown 12th 86.90 -- Magic of Orlando 13th 85.00

1999 -- Colts 12th 85.20 -- Bluecoats 13th 83.00

2000 -- Bluecoats 12th 85.15 -- Southwind 13th 84.95

2001 -- Colts 12th 85.95 -- Spirit 13th 84.05

2002 -- Seattle Cascades 12th 85.95 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.50

2003 -- Spirit 12th 85.50 -- Blue Knights 13th 85.35

2004 -- Glassmen 12th 86.375 -- Spirit 13th 86.300

2005 -- Spirit 12th 85.757 -- Colts 13th 84.075

2006 -- Spirit 12th 85.275 -- Colts 13th 83.050

2007 -- Spirit 12th 85.500 -- Academy 13th 84.500

2008 -- Madison Scouts 12th 86.375 -- Crossmen 13th 85.950

2009 -- Troopers 12th 85.90 -- Colts 13th 85.60

2010 -- Glassmen 12th 86.50 -- Colts 13th 86.45

2011 -- Spirit of Atlanta 12th 86.55 -- Glassmen 13th 83.40

2012 -- Crossmen 12th 84.90 -- Blue Stars 13th 84.60

2013 -- Blue Stars 12th 86.20 -- Troopers 13th 86.05

2014 -- Crossmen 12th 85.45 -- Colts 13th 85.35

2015 -- Crossmen 12th 83.875 -- Troopers 13th 83.800

2016 -- Boston Crusaders 12th 85.525 -- Madison Scouts 13th 85.263

2017 -- Madison Scouts 12th 86.475 -- Mandarins 13th 85.550

2018 -- Crossmen 12th 87.2500 -- Spirit of Atlanta 13th 85.5875

2019 -- Phantom Regiment 12th 87.775 -- Spirit of Atlanta 13th 85.587

*Bridgemen placed 3rd in Prelims in 1977, were disqualified because it was found they had marched underage members, got a court injunction allowing them to compete in Finals (where they placed 4th), and then lost their case in binding arbitration, where their disqualification was upheld. Additionally, two corps tied for 12th in Prelims, so there were 13 corps in Finals.

Looking back at the earliest years, it's fascinating to see that junior corps continued to compete in other shows well after DCI championships: not only at the American Legion and/or VFW, but other shows even into September. And some of them had shows as early as mid-May.

Corrections welcome.

Remembering that both 2014 and 2015 Crossmen had timing penalties at Semis because they had major technical issues delaying both semis shows. Without the penalties the scores would have been:

2014 - Crossmen 12th 86.45 -- Colts 13th 85.35

2015 -- Crossmen 12th 85.275 -- Troopers 13th 83.800 (Xmen would have tied for eleventh without the penalty).

 

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1972 Garfield Cadets...we had a 1.8 overtime penalty as the staff diddled and diddled with the show all the way out to champs, adding and adding...but not removing much of anything.

Would have ended up  around 9th in prelims without the penalty.

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, MikeD said:

1972 Garfield Cadets...we had a 1.8 overtime penalty as the staff diddled and diddled with the show all the way out to champs, adding and adding...but not removing much of anything.

Would have ended up  around 9th in prelims without the penalty.

 

 

 

spent to much time elsewhere?...hmmmm🤐 or didn't know when to stop, warning or not🙈

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3 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said:

2014 -- Crossmen 12th 85.45 -- Colts 13th 85.35

This was one I remember well. Both corps were fantastic, but man did the Colts put on a show at Semifinals. They had the crowd going nuts at the end of their show. 

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2 hours ago, MikeZ said:

The answer has to be 2000 Southwind. They were 12th or better in every single caption and 13th overall. The only top 12 corps in history to not make finals.

 

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It was the GE diff that did it.  Bloo 10th at 34.80, S-dub 12th at 34.10

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