Jeff Ream Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 6:11 PM, mfrontz said: Crossmen design staff: Lee Allman, front ensemble arranger Lee Beddis, battery arranger Drew Shanefield, brass arranger https://www.crossmen.org/post/design-team-additions is this Lee's 3rd time with the corps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersop Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 6:11 PM, mfrontz said: Crossmen design staff: Lee Allman, front ensemble arranger Lee Beddis, battery arranger Drew Shanefield, brass arranger https://www.crossmen.org/post/design-team-additions I'm excited to see what Drew produces at Crossmen (especially working with Lee). I like his writing. It hasn't always been interpreted well by Caption Managers .... but his books have been very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: is this Lee's 3rd time with the corps? He joined, the Xmen around 2001 until moving to Madison, then consulted with the Xmen while he served @Crown. So yes? 🤔 I've really enjoyed their book the past few years but Lee's a good guy! 😇 Edited October 3, 2020 by keystone3ply cx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsfever Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Expecting to see a 2021 field show seems like fantasy today. Edited October 3, 2020 by drumcorpsfever 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 3 hours ago, drumcorpsfever said: Expecting to see a 2021 field show seems like fantasy today. It’s caught in a landslide, no escape from reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84BDsop Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said: It’s caught in a landslide, no escape from reality. Anyway the wind blows.... *gong* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbobcat Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 11:48 AM, drumcorpsfever said: Expecting to see a 2021 field show seems like fantasy today. I was just wondering if anyone here knows how a corps' business model works,when it comes corps hiring design staff,especially in this environment. Right now everything,including in person auditions and 2021 are up in the air. Corps also have little if any income streams. So I was wondering,does anyone know if any of these new hires being paid,or is that contingent on what eventually happens with 2021 season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim K Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 hours ago, rpbobcat said: I was just wondering if anyone here knows how a corps' business model works,when it comes corps hiring design staff,especially in this environment. Right now everything,including in person auditions and 2021 are up in the air. Corps also have little if any income streams. So I was wondering,does anyone know if any of these new hires being paid,or is that contingent on what eventually happens with 2021 season ? I only know people who sit on the boards of two WC corps, so I am not speaking about every corps and even knowing the few board members I do, I am not claiming expertise. Both of these corps have acquired big names. I have read on DCP and if the season is still in progress, heard in the stands at Allentown and Indy (my theory is things get proposed in San Antonio, hammered out in Atlanta, spread in Allentown, and all but finalized in Indy), of all kinds of deals, signing bonuses, and the like, including hires by these corps. The board members of course, deny it. My guess is that in general, what you read and hear is probably exaggerated, The exaggerated tales are downplayed, and the truth is somewhere in the middle. This, of course is all in the past. For 2021 and the uncertainty of whether there will be a season, a great deal will have to do with the fine print of contracts. As anyone who has handled employees knows, whether classified as employees or vendors/independent contractors (which may be the case with many instructors), the pandemic has created many issues most have never anticipated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbobcat Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Tim K said: For 2021 and the uncertainty of whether there will be a season, a great deal will have to do with the fine print of contracts. As anyone who has handled employees knows, whether classified as employees or vendors/independent contractors (which may be the case with many instructors), the pandemic has created many issues most have never anticipated. I know that trying to classify instructors or staff as independent contractors can be really tricky. Years ago I believe the Bridgemen got into all kinds of tax trouble for calling instructors and other staff "independent contractors". I've had several of my employees want to be classified the same way. My accountant said if someone functions as an employee,they are one. He used the old "walks like a duck" analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Tim K said: I only know people who sit on the boards of two WC corps, so I am not speaking about every corps and even knowing the few board members I do, I am not claiming expertise. Both of these corps have acquired big names. I believe the big names Boston signed after the 2016 season are on five year contracts which would end after the 2021 season. Just another situation for any corps with contracts ending this year/next year to consider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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