WoofInTheWoods Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 I know we all love to hear a hornline that plays loud AND good but if you had to choose between one or the other what would it be? Bleeding ears or no bleeding ears? To me nothing sucks worse than a big hornline that doesn't play well and they do it as loud as they can. Loud does not = good! ]:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankBeMe Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 As one who, back before the days of reserved seats, would always try to get front row 50 just to get the full impact of loud hornlines, I would say that I like loud alot--but also good. There have been plenty of hornlines that were just loud without any quality at all. But corps like Madison, Spirit and others made up for that. These days though, as hornlines hold back some because of the pit, the loud mainly happens exclusively in the alumni corps. Some of them are quite good, others you can tell that they have problems with intonation and endurance. So, given the choice....quality is a good thing but loud and quality are even better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Relative volume changes are what I think make the difference. The absolute loudness is far less important to me than the use of the full dynamic range based on the size of the horn line and what will produce the best quality sound, with excellent timbre, intonation, and balance. I guess I'm a "quality first" person. (:-D Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insanity Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Quality will remain the issue long after the bleeding. Later... Jim "Insanity" Schehr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BariEuph Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 a high-quality, in tune hornline sounds louder than should be proportional to their numbers. quality rules for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregGilman Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 I strongly disagree with the premise that you can have LOUD or QUALITY, but not both. The two are very much related. Any horn line can play loud. And most horn lines can play with good tone quality and intonation. What makes a truly great horn line is one that can play with good quality and intonation at any volume. The results will be far more impressive, enjoyable and yes, louder. I have a feeling this thread is a result of the efforts of the Renegegades PR machine. Yes, we like to say 'Loud is Good'. But don't think for an instance that we're forgetting about good horn playing. Our horn staff has many, many DCI championships under their belt and demand the upmost attention to proper technique at all times. If the phrase Loud is Good really bugs you, think of it as a stepping stone to Good intonation, beautiful tone and full sound is great. :D See you on the 50. - Greg PS: I will say that volume is one of the most unique aspects of drum and bugle corps compared to other musical venues. To ignore this obvious difference when marketing drum corps to the masses would be a mistake, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMom8105 Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 I strongly disagree with the premise that you can have LOUD or QUALITY, but not both. The two are very much related.Any horn line can play loud. And most horn lines can play with good tone quality and intonation. What makes a truly great horn line is one that can play with good quality and intonation at any volume. The results will be far more impressive, enjoyable and yes, louder. I have a feeling this thread is a result of the efforts of the Renegegades PR machine. Yes, we like to say 'Loud is Good'. But don't think for an instance that we're forgetting about good horn playing. Our horn staff has many, many DCI championships under their belt and demand the upmost attention to proper technique at all times. If the phrase Loud is Good really bugs you, think of it as a stepping stone to Good intonation, beautiful tone and full sound is great. :D See you on the 50. - Greg PS: I will say that volume is one of the most unique aspects of drum and bugle corps compared to other musical venues. To ignore this obvious difference when marketing drum corps to the masses would be a mistake, IMO. Ding, ding, ding!!!!!!! Greg wins! I agree wholeheartedly. -Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeDM Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 In a drum corps, you have to have the loud. A brass quintet can give you great quality of sound, but it won't move you musicaly if you can't hear it. Yes, some of the greatest musical moments are soft and you have to strain to hear them, however, drum coprs is ment to rock your world. The greatest sounds will come from those corps who can use intonation, ballance, and volume to push you over the edge. Dynamic contrast is just a "trick" to help make the louds louder. I love them! The reason we play soft, is to give you the louds, and it's not really playing loud if you can't get soft. Ummm...Chris...we might have a problem here ;)^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loudisgood Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 Hey Wolfy, "Loud Is Good", our little catch phrase, I think is more about our exuberant attitude and getting people pumped up for a good time. Aw heck, who am I kidding. We believe it is possible to induce labor while playing in tune and in the context of the chart we are performing. I sure hope you are able to check us out this summer. We are a Drum and Bugle Corps. N.A.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strutta Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 Loud with Good Quality WILL be Louder than Loud without Good Quality. So, assuming the quality is there: Loud is Good. Louder is GREAT! Lodi, not so much...just kidding. Sure the contrast between loud/soft is impressive but this can be accomplished in many musical situations. I must agree w/Greg: It's the loudness that separates drum corps-(one of the last things-but one of the things, nonetheless). :yikes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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