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11 hours ago, GUARDLING said:

If you have to ask.." How Safe " is safe, not much else to discuss...but thanks

If you have to dodge the question, you have no intention of discussing.

Nothing is completely safe.  You pointed that out yourself, in describing how stomach viruses spread among corps members "packed like sardines" on buses.  And there are other diseases, bus accidents, sexual predators, etc... but you did not suggest shutting down the activity in the face of any of those dangers.

So how safe is "safe", in your opinion?  Do we need a vaccine?  Several vaccines?  Must vaccines be a prerequisite to march?  Is there some other precondition you have in mind?

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1 hour ago, rpbobcat said:

A couple of weeks ago my wife needed to get a Covid test for a medical procedure.

Problem was, they moved the procedure up.

She needed the test results in 24 hours.

She thought about getting a rapid test.

But she was told that,right now ,they are only about 65% accurate,with a lot of false positives.

That's what's happened with a number of NFL players who tested positive with the rapid test,false positives.

Given the impact a positive test would have on a corps,until the rapid tests get more reliable,they really aren't a great option.

Fortunately, in her case,the hospital where she works was able to get her a "slot" at a local lab for a standard Covid test.

Friend's daughter was sent home from school as she had some symptoms that Covid also shows.  The school required that she be tested.  She was taken for a test the next day and had to wait 10 days for the results.  During those ten days she was isolated in her room at home.

The test came back negative (other crap going around here) but I can't imagine what those 10 days were like for her.  There are again so many cases now testing results are really backed up. 

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10 hours ago, KVG_DC said:

Passed one in late August that took into Sept to recover from fully.  I've lost count of how many I've had through the years.

Hard pass.

A friend had a horrible complication with one at the beginning of this year - it required a stent to be inserted for 6 weeks to allow stone fragments to pass through after they blasted it to break it up.

He was quite relieved to have the stent removed when it was determined there were no more large pieces to pass through.

He then got Covid-19. 

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We’ve reached what, to me, is the biggest mystery. That is . . . 

What is the sign to indicate it’s OK to resume usual operations?
 

There is, in my opinion, no particular sign upcoming! It is pointless to wait for a guarantee. 

So, pick a moment, see what happens and go from there. Some will choose not to participate in any group opinion. That’s understandable. So, adjust.
 

 

 

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10 hours ago, KVG_DC said:

Passed one in late August that took into Sept to recover from fully.  I've lost count of how many I've had through the years.

 

Hard pass.

I see what you did there... 🙂

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10 hours ago, E3D said:

The rapid testing kits along with a vaccine would be a start. I'm not sure what it takes to get those rapid testing but might want to check with the local health departments and see if organizations for the youth such as DCI could get those for no cost. The vaccine and protocol's similar to college sports teams. 

 

 

Just a follow up to my previous post.

Cost aside,the logistics of testing all corps and staff members at least once,more likely twice,a week are daunting.

Assuming the rapid test is used,you'd have to find labs with enough excess capacity to add 200 or so tests for each corps and staff.

I live in a densely populated area,close to NYC.

The labs around here that do rapid tests can handle a total of 200 or so a day.

Right now they are turning people away every day.

Trying to find labs with rapid test capability and capacity in "rural" areas may not be possible.

What if several corps need to have tests done in the same area,at the same time ?

Even with masks and social distancing indoor competitions could easily turn into a "Super Spreader".

Then you also have the problem of how do you deal with a positive test ?

In my opinion,these are all questions that are going to need to be addressed before DCI can even consider a 2021 Tour.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, rpbobcat said:

Just a follow up to my previous post.

Cost aside,the logistics of testing all corps and staff members at least once,more likely twice,a week are daunting.

Assuming the rapid test is used,you'd have to find labs with enough excess capacity to add 200 or so tests for each corps and staff.

I live in a densely populated area,close to NYC.

The labs around here that do rapid tests can handle a total of 200 or so a day.

Right now they are turning people away every day.

Trying to find labs with rapid test capability and capacity in "rural" areas may not be possible.

What if several corps need to have tests done in the same area,at the same time ?

Even with masks and social distancing indoor competitions could easily turn into a "Super Spreader".

Then you also have the problem of how do you deal with a positive test ?

In my opinion,these are all questions that are going to need to be addressed before DCI can even consider a 2020 Tour.

 

 

Yeah 2020 is probably not going to happen. 😉

So better to wait it out? No marching until the pandemic burns itself out? 

The Spanish Flu took a year and a half. Maybe it is better to wait out 2 seasons and see what is left in 2022. That might be the reality. 

Seems the number of anti vaxers are growing so the vaccine will not do what is intended if people do not take it. 

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17 minutes ago, E3D said:

Yeah 2020 is probably not going to happen. 😉

So better to wait it out? No marching until the pandemic burns itself out? 

The Spanish Flu took a year and a half. Maybe it is better to wait out 2 seasons and see what is left in 2022. That might be the reality. 

Seems the number of anti vaxers are growing so the vaccine will not do what is intended if people do not take it. 

Opps !

(Red face)

Corrected it .

I'm not an "anti vaxer",but I'm also not going to rush out and get the covid vaccine either.

Last week I was at a meeting on the best way to deal with positive tests in a local school system.

One of the attendees was a doctor,another a pharmacist.

We started talking about a Covid vaccine.

They expressed the same concerns I have posted about.

Namely,that we won't know for a while potential side effects.

They can take a couple of years to show up.

Some times the side effects can be worse then the disease.

 

 

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