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57 minutes ago, Tenoris4Jazz said:

Perfect example:  PR 2008

We knew something was going to happen, we anticipated it, and when it did happen... BOOM!!!!

Tilt too...we knew the pitch bend was coming....but the build....

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16 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

i taught a band known for props etc and of course everyone assumed we were the Star of marching band financially. Nope....donated stuff, awesome parents and a great design staff with years of experience and success across all branches of the activity...and we did really well. 

 

and years we didn't have a lot out there were just as good. there was once show...94...where everyone was all in arms about the props. What they don't realize is it was the music captions that won us the show, not the props

Same here

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9 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

BD 11 had all that crap out there to where it looked like Home Extreme Makeover or whatever it was. they didn't win.

They placed 2nd by half a point, beating 39 other corps... ten years ago, the last time a prop-free show won DCI.  What do you think that proves?

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Crown the space show with all that junk...didn't win. Bloo 15, 17, 18...all that stuff, didn't win. Cadets 16-17 and 19 anyone? Mandarins huge prop? 

And why are you making a list of prop-laden shows that lost to other prop-laden shows?  What does that prove?  Because if your only point is this... 

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just having it does not guarantee success.

... that is innately obvious.  Having drums does not guarantee success either.  There are many corps fielding props now, competing against each other for that success.

But to contend that there is no advantage to be gained from props, and no disadvantage for not having props in DCI?  That is silly.  Is that really a point of contention here?

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1 hour ago, cixelsyd said:

They placed 2nd by half a point, beating 39 other corps... ten years ago, the last time a prop-free show won DCI.  What do you think that proves?

And why are you making a list of prop-laden shows that lost to other prop-laden shows?  What does that prove?  Because if your only point is this... 

... that is innately obvious.  Having drums does not guarantee success either.  There are many corps fielding props now, competing against each other for that success.

But to contend that there is no advantage to be gained from props, and no disadvantage for not having props in DCI?  That is silly.  Is that really a point of contention here?

Boom, out of the park...

There is just saying (and typing) things to hear yourself (and vain attempts at making oneself an expert) then there is reality.  Thank you.

 

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12 hours ago, GUARDLING said:

 NM

NM?  Safety is pretty important.  Just making lite of what falling entails to personal injury is not to be belittled or written off if you don't understand data and facts.  There is a HUGE (monumental actually) difference of falling when running and falling 6 feet off a ladder or other raised surface.  This isn't even debatable.

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3 minutes ago, Mello Dude said:

NM?  Safety is pretty important.  Just making lite of what falling entails to personal injury is not to be belittled or written off if you don't understand data and facts.  There is a HUGE (monumental actually) difference of falling when running and falling 6 feet off a ladder or other raised surface.  This isn't even debatable.

and who belittling  the subject. ..Youre right with 1 thing...this isn't debatable

choosing not to engage , and I don't mean the subject is something quite different

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On 9/5/2021 at 10:53 AM, GUARDLING said:

same can be said ( and Has ) of high speed whiplash drill that many people love.

....indeed...

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17 minutes ago, Mello Dude said:

....indeed...

and your point?...look if you are looking for a confrontation ( clearly ) ....move on . But I do appreciate the conversation, and the importance of safety on and off the field. I just won't decide which injury may be acceptable or not. Hurt is hurt and if it's a fall of any kind must be considered and taken seriously. ANY KIND. I think we can agree on that.

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