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1 hour ago, GUARDLING said:

....lol....How about drum and bugle corps.....when was the last time corps used bugles..lol

Three weeks ago.

According to the DCI rule book, section 4.6.2, "By the word "bugle" as used herein is meant; any traditionally defined brass instrument pitched in any key; where sound is produced by the vibration of the player's lips in a tubular resonator."

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21 minutes ago, cixelsyd said:

Three weeks ago.

According to the DCI rule book, section 4.6.2, "By the word "bugle" as used herein is meant; any traditionally defined brass instrument pitched in any key; where sound is produced by the vibration of the player's lips in a tubular resonator."

Well there ya go...lol

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8 hours ago, MikeN said:

Not trying to nitpick, but Phantom changed uniforms constantly from 1988 on.  And Vanguard did it off and on for decades.  Waiting for the new Regiment look was one of the fun parts of only being able to see the PBS broadcast every year.  

Mike

They both changed their uniform and not their costume, but I understand your point.  Everything old is new again.

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Not personally liking something isn't the same as it being a failure.  

Everything Poppy said is a failure is here to stay and will only become more and more prevalent.  I don't care for it, either, but I don't conflate my opinion with success or failure in DCI.  

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2 hours ago, Liahona said:

They both changed their uniform and not their costume, but I understand your point.  Everything old is new again.

Bingo!

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On 9/4/2021 at 11:23 AM, Boss Anova said:

 Agree.  Silly props with mice in costumes would be even worse though.thumb_creepy-mickey-mouse-costume-photo-44073489.png

I dunno.  Music City wasn't gonna win with that show, but it was cute and fun.  The "rawr" of the cat was one of the things I looked for every show.

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On 9/3/2021 at 2:46 PM, Poppycock said:

I completely disagree with you.

The trend of costumes portraying a theme and/or story is IMO a colossal failure and completely unnecessary.

Musical arrangements, visual drill design, and auxiliary will suffice. Props are not going to prop up a poorly designed program, no more than silly mice costumes. 

Designers need to consider the venue. Smaller venues like a gymnasium work better for costuming - WGI.

What we learned this season is that larger venues require more uniformity for greater visual impact. Madison, Phantom, Cavaliers, Cadets and even Bluecoats uniform styles/colors created both simplicity and clarity with respect to marching design and overall visual effect.

IMO less clutter more uniformity! 

we as fans learned it, but when have fans thoughts ever been taken into account? Varsity...err Stanbury....needs to make money you know (insert sarcasm here)

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On 9/4/2021 at 9:08 AM, Weaklefthand4ever said:

I can agree with quite a bit of this. I always find myself gravitating back to the guard really selling the "story" and the rest of the corps supporting that story with with music. 1987 Sky Ryders comes to mind. That guard sold that show from a story perspective. It is really a balance for me and I guess it probably IS design and I just don't really think about it. It's very easy these days to go way over the top in a futile attempt to just throw some props out on a field or do something crazy with costumes / uniforms in hopes of it impacting GE. 

BTW....one more thing on Sky Ryders. Those cats....were a blast to hang with.

that show was 30 years too soon.

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