Jeff Ream Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Liahona said: "Why should they ?" Mainly because SOA, DCI, and other corps have failed repeatedly to keep our kids safe. I am not advocating to burning it to the ground, but feel SOA, DCI and other corps have not gone far enough to protect our kids. Words and policies are just not enough! There needs to be real consequences. agreed. 2018 should have been the wake up call to end all wake up calls. But...well....no. It continued and led to Pioneer being forced out and OC basically shutting down. all of the other issues since. it's inexcusable 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpbobcat Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) On 1/10/2022 at 7:15 AM, rpbobcat said: You hit the nail on the head. DCI is, as you said, an organization whose "policies emanate from the 12 individual member corps". The corps don't seem to have any interest in changing the status quo. Why should they ? When it comes to Drum Corps, they're the "only game in town", and they know it. DCI can't even put together a cooperative purchasing deal for non-perishables. A perfect example of DCI's ineffectiveness was last season's Covid Protocols. The disclaimers in the document showed that all DCI was doing was making "policies". Each corps was to deal/enforce them as they saw fit. Unless / until corps are willing to give up power (fat chance) and form a true independent Governing Body with investigative and enforcement power, as opposed to an event scheduler, nothing is going to change. As I said,why should they ? 8 hours ago, Liahona said: "Why should they ?" Mainly because SOA, DCI, and other corps have failed repeatedly to keep our kids safe. I am not advocating to burning it to the ground, but feel SOA, DCI and other corps have not gone far enough to protect our kids. Words and policies are just not enough! There needs to be real consequences. The point of my post was that, as "the only game in town" , DCI doesn't have any desire/incentive to be anything other then the event scheduler they currently are. As Mr. Ream said,2018 should have been a "wake up" call. But, obviously ,it wasn't. What happened at Pioneer, OC and now SoA, shows the status quo carried on. In my opinion. until DCI faces significant financial or legal consequences, there is no reason for the corps to give up power, and create a true Governing Body for the activity. Edited January 12, 2022 by rpbobcat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Hall Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 In 1975 DCI was quick to DQ Muchachos for overage members but how quick have they been to deal with the more serious issues that have risen in DCI lately? So is overage a more important issue than abuse? Hmmmmm 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Hall Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Maybe it's time to bring ALL of drum corps together (DCI and DCA) and put a NEW organization together and address these issues so that the negativity can be fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Liahona said: "Why should they ?" Mainly because SOA, DCI, and other corps have failed repeatedly to keep our kids safe. I am not advocating to burning it to the ground, but feel SOA, DCI and other corps have not gone far enough to protect our kids. Words and policies are just not enough! There needs to be real consequences. Yes. If member safety & staff training were a 20-point caption in the scoring system, suddenly corps would be focused on those things everyday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, cixelsyd said: Yes. If member safety & staff training were a 20-point caption in the scoring system, suddenly corps would be focused on those things everyday. Not a separate caption; just add it to the timing & penalties column with a 'compliance' adjudicator? 😁 Edited January 12, 2022 by keystone3ply cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjoakes Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, rpbobcat said: In my opinion. until DCI faces significant financial or legal consequences, there is no reason for the corps to give up power, and create a true Governing Body for the activity. There are protests about just about everything these days. I wonder what impact would be made if fans who are passionate about change organized attention-getting protests at the regionals and finals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inbetween Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 They have "postponed" camp until next month. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppycock Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, mjoakes said: There are protests about just about everything these days. I wonder what impact would be made if fans who are passionate about change organized attention-getting protests at the regionals and finals. Just stop supporting the individual organization(s) who are offenders and/or DCI itself. You can send a clear message by not donating, purchasing tickets, and streaming events. Hit them where it hurts the most! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, inbetween said: They have "postponed" camp until next month. For COVID & the predicted chance of snow? 🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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