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Sexual Assault: Spirit of Atlanta 2021


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11 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:

The abnormal is made to seem normal. 

It is part of the grooming process.

Individuals aren't the only ones who groom their victims; by the culture they set organizations groom victims as well.  Makes the grooming process easier for the perp when the organization does part of the work for you.

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18 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

It is part of the grooming process.

Individuals aren't the only ones who groom their victims; by the culture they set organizations groom victims as well.  Makes the grooming process easier for the perp when the organization does part of the work for you.

excellent observation

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The timing of this coming out is doing a great job of showing just how ineffectual DCI is at reforming the activity. Won't actually do anything about members being groomed, harassed, and assaulted, but .... We're continuing the conversation on mental health! And you can click here for "5 more mental health tips for marching musicians"!!

https://www.dci.org/news/answering-key-questions-on-mental-health-and-drum-corps

 

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5 minutes ago, FTNK said:

And you can click here for "5 more mental health tips for marching musicians"!!

 

Tip #6 - stay the hell off of DCP. It'll drive you nuts. 

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It's clear that DCI just doesn't care. Not only about this incident, but just in general. As long as the shows are high quality, the rest doesn't really matter.

And by DCI not caring, what I really mean is the individual people that are in leadership positions in the activity. "The corps are DCI"... so, good... the corps do not care. The directors of these corps do not care. The caption heads do not care. The designers do not care.

The senior staff cadre in DCI that move throughout the activity... this is their lifeline. Their association with these on field products has brought them hundreds of thousands of dollars each. Not from the corps themselves (though maybe?), but from the competitive high school marching band landscape. These top notch staff are getting paid well into the 5 figures each year by the competitive bands. And the people are getting this money because of their work in DCI. How can what they are doing be wrong if it is being financially rewarded like this? 

If DCI cared, would a person from the midwest be happily accepted on the west coast? Would the west coast corps rising up the ranks outweigh the person's actions? Would an East Coast director be able to run his own personal grooming studio masquerading as an educational youth organization for decades?

And the lower level tech staff; the activity is directly bringing them thousands of dollars as well. These staff will go get good teaching money from competitive high school programs. Because of their association with DCI. And even the members... how many members walk off the field in August and walk onto a high school field to make thousands of dollars in the fall marching band season? 

All of these people have an interest to protect the status quo. Everyone on this thread saying "DCI doesn't get it" and "DCI needs to do more".... DCI knows what is going on. AND THEY DON'T CARE.

Believe people when they tell you what they are. 

Are there good people in drum corps? Of course. There are many. But the activity is rotten. An apple that's 90% good is a bad apple.

How many people knew in real time about the situation at Spirit? How many people knew about the GH situation? How many knew about the personality moving to the west coast? Are these people good people?

Most of us on this website have marched DCI. Many of us donate money to this activity. How many of us are honestly surprised at ANY of these stories? If we aren't surprised, isn't that a problem? Isn't that a BIG problem...? What does that say about us? Are we part of the problem too? What does that say about the activity?

Someone suggested "maybe it's time for DCI to die"... and maybe it is. 

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1 hour ago, soccerguy315 said:

It's clear that DCI just doesn't care. Not only about this incident, but just in general. As long as the shows are high quality, the rest doesn't really matter.

And by DCI not caring, what I really mean is the individual people that are in leadership positions in the activity. "The corps are DCI"... so, good... the corps do not care. The directors of these corps do not care. The caption heads do not care. The designers do not care.

The senior staff cadre in DCI that move throughout the activity... this is their lifeline. Their association with these on field products has brought them hundreds of thousands of dollars each. Not from the corps themselves (though maybe?), but from the competitive high school marching band landscape. These top notch staff are getting paid well into the 5 figures each year by the competitive bands. And the people are getting this money because of their work in DCI. How can what they are doing be wrong if it is being financially rewarded like this? 

If DCI cared, would a person from the midwest be happily accepted on the west coast? Would the west coast corps rising up the ranks outweigh the person's actions? Would an East Coast director be able to run his own personal grooming studio masquerading as an educational youth organization for decades?

And the lower level tech staff; the activity is directly bringing them thousands of dollars as well. These staff will go get good teaching money from competitive high school programs. Because of their association with DCI. And even the members... how many members walk off the field in August and walk onto a high school field to make thousands of dollars in the fall marching band season? 

All of these people have an interest to protect the status quo. Everyone on this thread saying "DCI doesn't get it" and "DCI needs to do more".... DCI knows what is going on. AND THEY DON'T CARE.

Believe people when they tell you what they are. 

Are there good people in drum corps? Of course. There are many. But the activity is rotten. An apple that's 90% good is a bad apple.

How many people knew in real time about the situation at Spirit? How many people knew about the GH situation? How many knew about the personality moving to the west coast? Are these people good people?

Most of us on this website have marched DCI. Many of us donate money to this activity. How many of us are honestly surprised at ANY of these stories? If we aren't surprised, isn't that a problem? Isn't that a BIG problem...? What does that say about us? Are we part of the problem too? What does that say about the activity?

Someone suggested "maybe it's time for DCI to die"... and maybe it is. 

Well they lose that lifeline if DCI dies, so maybe they overplayed the status quo hand.  

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I took a quick perusal of the latest FB post from SOS and there’s definitely a cadre of commenters who clearly don’t get it. One even blamed their loss of housing on a “woke mob.” Hopefully the majority of their members and alumni don’t share similar views.

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23 minutes ago, year1buick said:

I took a quick perusal of the latest FB post from SOS and there’s definitely a cadre of commenters who clearly don’t get it. One even blamed their loss of housing on a “woke mob.” Hopefully the majority of their members and alumni don’t share similar views.

Keep thinking of a comment I saw yesterday, paraphrasing “Spirit no longer has an image to protect”.

This is the reason why IMO all members need anti-sexual harassment and anti-bullying training. But to some telling people why sexual harassment is wrong is being “woke”. 🤮 

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