skevinp Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, inbetween said: They did it at crown then again at the next corps and high school they worked at. This person simply moved again and is working in another state. Is there a reason you don’t name the next corps? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PricklyPear Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said: IDK how you define majority, but since 2018 we have had accusations against: Cadets Pioneer (now inactive) Cavaliers Phantom Crown SoA Crossmen Troopers Blue Devils Mandarins Shadow (inactive in 2022) Battalion Raiders Oregon Crusaders (inactive) Did I forget any? By my math that is 11 of the 42 active Corps listed on DCI.org, or 26%. And these are only the Corps with published allegations So 74% did not. That's a majority. Yes, I am sure there are many allegations that are unpublished. On the other hand, we don't know the nature of those published accusations above, or if they were actually substantiated or not. I just feel that any particular violation (or criminal act) needs to be dealt with in regards to that particular organization and the adults responsible. I think we should avoid throwing a blanket of shame over the entire activity. There are still a lot of good corps doing the right things. Edited January 13, 2022 by PricklyPear Clarification 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, PricklyPear said: So 74% did not. Yes, I am sure there are many allegations that are unpublished. On the other hand, we don't know the nature of those published accusations above, or if they were actually substantiated or not. I just feel that the particular violation (or criminal act) needs to be dealt with in regards to that particular organization - and the adults responsible. I think we should avoid throwing a blanket of shame over the entire activity. There are still a lot of good corps doing the right things. If you look at top 12, there are 7 on the list (inc a world champion) - that is 58%. I have heard rumors about another top-12 that could be on the list but have no first hand info so until someone who does posts I will keep it at 58%. And, by definition we don't know about the ones we don't know about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, PricklyPear said: I think we should avoid throwing a blanket of shame over the entire activity. There are still a lot of good corps doing the right things. Let’s look at the group responsible for the entire Junior activity. There is where a lot of the shame should go. There are good corps but they will be damaged by this too by DCIs inactions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said: IDK how you define majority, but since 2018 we have had accusations against: Cadets Pioneer (now inactive) Cavaliers Phantom Crown SoA Crossmen Troopers Blue Devils Mandarins Shadow (inactive in 2022) Battalion Raiders Oregon Crusaders (inactive) Did I forget any? SCV Genesis Music City Southwind and a vague allegation about Bluecoats (mind you, that is just since April 2018) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, PricklyPear said: I just feel that any particular violation (or criminal act) needs to be dealt with in regards to that particular organization and the adults responsible. I think we should avoid throwing a blanket of shame over the entire activity. That's an attitude that encourages more of the same. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cixelsyd Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: the problem is getting people to come forward. several names have been mentioned here over the years, but they get removed because no formal allegations were made. I know. I would probably have my internet connection severed if I even started to compose a post about 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: Opinion requested - do people think DCI Office & individual Corps are reading these threads on DCP & Reddit? Not ‘will they do anything’ - just are they aware of what is happening here (& on Reddit)? Hell no; they're too busy working on that "god-forsaken" website & trying to figure out how to post the schedule/tickets. It's crazy how you can't access your personal DCI ticket account via a simple tab/link on their website. You have to access through a specific show on the schedule or I just type in "DCI ticket showare" in google... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutasaurus Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, PricklyPear said: So 74% did not. That's a majority. Yes, I am sure there are many allegations that are unpublished. On the other hand, we don't know the nature of those published accusations above, or if they were actually substantiated or not. I just feel that any particular violation (or criminal act) needs to be dealt with in regards to that particular organization and the adults responsible. I think we should avoid throwing a blanket of shame over the entire activity. There are still a lot of good corps doing the right things. I couldn’t agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, keystone3ply said: Hell no; they're too busy working on that "god-forsaken" website & trying to figure out how to post the schedule/tickets. It's crazy how you can't access your personal DCI ticket account via a simple tab/link on their website. You have to access through a specific show on the schedule or I just type in "DCI ticket showare" in google... Well I wouldn't know as there isn't a show within 7-8 hours of here (each way). No contests seen since 2013 when I was visiting my dad for a few days in northern Indiana & I went to open class prelims. But that is a rant for a different day. Or perhaps never if DCI/Corps don't slay the abuse dragon immediately forevermore. Edited January 13, 2022 by IllianaLancerContra clarity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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