OldSnareDrummer Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, waliman4444 said: .But seriously , they made me care about show design..And as DINO horn guy , that wasn't always a given..lol Even moreso for dino drummers. Us: What do we do? M&M Instructor: See that 50 yard line? Don't step away from it. Back and forth. Back and forth. All the way until you see the rest of the corps leave the field. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forevergreen Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Zingali, Brubaker, Gaines, Saktig. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutasaurus Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 32 minutes ago, Forevergreen said: Zingali, Brubaker, Gaines, Saktig. And Brazale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 All of the individuals listed are iconic in their own way of what they have brought to the activity. Hard to say who is better than another. Mentioned in this thread a few times but one of the most, if not the most successful, visual designer of all time is Jay Murphy. Being the humble guy he is, he is one I'm sure that doesn't mind that he is often overlooked. His impact not only on visual design but the color guard world is quite astounding. I'm sure Todd Ryan can also be attributed to much of BD's success and Jay would say it was an entire team effort. He is the master of staging, right up there with Gaines. The fluidity of his drills is a work of art where the progression of moving to the next stage is just...jaw dropping at times. It's not pretty pictures or impactful moments, it is the whole design of the entire show. It's why BD is successful. His caption titles with BD and excuse me if I miss anything. Color Guard Staff 1982 1984 Visual Designer 1986 1994 1995 1997 1999 2001 2003 2004 2008 2009 2010 2012 (Tie) 2014 2015 2017 2019 Enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutasaurus Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Whiskey said: All of the individuals listed are iconic in their own way of what they have brought to the activity. Hard to say who is better than another. Mentioned in this thread a few times but one of the most, if not the most successful, visual designer of all time is Jay Murphy. Being the humble guy he is, he is one I'm sure that doesn't mind that he is often overlooked. His impact not only on visual design but the color guard world is quite astounding. I'm sure Todd Ryan can also be attributed to much of BD's success and Jay would say it was an entire team effort. He is the master of staging, right up there with Gaines. The fluidity of his drills is a work of art where the progression of moving to the next stage is just...jaw dropping at times. It's not pretty pictures or impactful moments, it is the whole design of the entire show. It's why BD is successful. His caption titles with BD and excuse me if I miss anything. Color Guard Staff 1982 1984 Visual Designer 1986 1994 1995 1997 1999 2001 2003 2004 2008 2009 2010 2012 (Tie) 2014 2015 2017 2019 Enough said. Enough said….Kudos to BD for their accomplishments but the topic is drill design not staging. There is a difference. Let the “discussion” begin. Edited June 15, 2022 by Sutasaurus 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forevergreen Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Sutasaurus said: Enough said….Kudos to BD for their accomplishments but the topic is drill design not staging. There is a difference. Let the “discussion” begin. Agreed. I think BD does incredible staging and articulates their theme well. Drill design ? A few moments here and there I have been wowed by, but a collective no as far as best drill designer 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxingfred Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) Free Hand or Pyware, Hands down. Sparky Polastri He is the king of movement! Edited October 17, 2022 by boxingfred rewrite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabMaster Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 10:51 PM, Sutasaurus said: Enough said….Kudos to BD for their accomplishments but the topic is drill design not staging. There is a difference. Let the “discussion” begin. Just commenting on one point: Staging is a critical element of good design. Placing musical sections in the appropriate places on the field integrated with other elements IS good design. Look to Zingali’s time with Cadets for maximized staging impact and effective design. Jay Murphy’s results speak for themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutasaurus Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, LabMaster said: Just commenting on one point: Staging is a critical element of good design. Placing musical sections in the appropriate places on the field integrated with other elements IS good design. Look to Zingali’s time with Cadets for maximized staging impact and effective design. Jay Murphy’s results speak for themselves. Then maybe we need to relook at the “era” of drill design we’re discussing because the idea of “staging” has taken on an entirely different meaning nowadays. Props/ body movement vs marching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabMaster Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Sutasaurus said: Then maybe we need to relook at the “era” of drill design we’re discussing because the idea of “staging” has taken on an entirely different meaning nowadays. Props/ body movement vs marching. I don’t believe “staging” as it relates movement of marching elements is any different than it has ever been. Props may be elements on a stage. But they are not elements of staging. Body move is not staging in any manner at all. “Staging” relative to movement presents featured musical voices in a way to highlight them musically, whether they move or park. Amplification has certainly changed staging because you don’t need to position voices to deliver particular phrases. Integration of percussion and guard with brass (with current amplification of brass and percussion) has created a a new consideration of staging in the last few years. At least that’s how I’m seeing it in the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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