George Dixon Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 8:37 AM, DAYGO said: Not sure how that is any different from the countless of other corps that reached out to the SCV members, but ok. it's all about tone and timing, neither was good JMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, George Dixon said: it's all about tone and timing, neither was good JMO What difference does timing make? If they HADN'T reached out to them, then someone would have made a big freaking deal about THAT. Would you have wanted them to wait until April to reach out? May? June? Give me a break dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadet Guardy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, 2000Cadet said: What difference does timing make? If they HADN'T reached out to them, then someone would have made a big freaking deal about THAT. Would you have wanted them to wait until April to reach out? May? June? Give me a break dude. Can't believe this is a second time but IMO, @George Dixonis right. The Cadets have always displayed pure class but the tone and timing was off - it was not a classy move. Yes, I would have reached out to SVC just a tad bit later but I also would have made it more personal if possible, i.e. connecting with SVC to possibly share contracted member info so an individual letter could have been sent and attempting to create a direct bridge, one that SVC advocate for but perhaps not publicaly. This is just me with my wishful marketing hat on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DAYGO Posted January 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, 2000Cadet said: What difference does timing make? If they HADN'T reached out to them, then someone would have made a big freaking deal about THAT. Would you have wanted them to wait until April to reach out? May? June? Give me a break dude. Agreed. The timing, tone, message, would likely have been criticized no matter what. Nobody is perfect. I'd like to share my personal experience as my son was one of those left without a home after the Vanguard announcement. My son was very much looking forward to his rookie season with Vanguard and was devastated by the news. Our family will always be thankful to the several corps that reached out to him personally within 24 hours of the biggest disappointment in his young life to offer even a chance at still participating this coming summer. He made the decision to give it a go so we scrambled to learn/prepare new music, record endless amounts of videos and submit them to those corps that reached out. To his credit, he was welcomed with open arms to several corps, which added to the difficulty of making a decision on what to do and where to go. My wife and I left this decision up to him, only asking him to make sure he considered everything from organization history, connection with staff that reached out, geography, potential friends who might join him, etc. Living in CA and for selfish reasons, we wanted him to stay in the West so that we could attend as many shows as possible. To our surprise, my son chose to be a Cadet so I will only be able to see him perform in San Antonio and possible Indy for finals week. We support his decision 100% and he is over the moon at the opportunity to be a part of such a storied program. We have a box delivering this Saturday filled with over $250 worth of Cadets merch, ready to support the corp from way out West! The travel to NJ from CA for the next 4 months will not be easy (or cheap) but the connection my son made with the staff literally overnight and since then has been nothing but positive. I only hope that the other displaced SCV members who chose to find another home have/had as great of an experience as my son did in finding The Cadets. Edited January 5, 2023 by DAYGO 14 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Cadet Guardy said: Can't believe this is a second time but IMO, @George Dixonis right. The Cadets have always displayed pure class but the tone and timing was off - it was not a classy move. Yes, I would have reached out to SVC just a tad bit later but I also would have made it more personal if possible, i.e. connecting with SVC to possibly share contracted member info so an individual letter could have been sent and attempting to create a direct bridge, one that SVC advocate for but perhaps not publicaly. This is just me with my wishful marketing hat on. Please. YOU should know better than anyone that would not have made any difference whatsoever, ESPECIALLY on this forum. I think one of the things people seem to have lost is the possibility that had they NOT reached out to SCV as early as possible, then spots would have possibly been filled. Then they wouldn't have ANY opportunity to march Cadets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 The only POV I care about hearing regarding any of this is that of the SCV performers who got shafted. If they were outraged by the timing of it, then fine. I'm not seeing that. And I couldn't possibly care less if it hurt the feelings of the SCV admin who acted like morons and let this happen in this way in the first place. Same with their alum who might have problems with it. Grow up. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 hours ago, George Dixon said: it's all about tone and timing, neither was good JMO Didn’t see what Cadets sent out. What was wrong with the tone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, DAYGO said: Agreed. The timing, tone, message, would likely have been criticized no matter what. Nobody is perfect. I'd like to share my personal experience as my son was one of those left without a home after the Vanguard announcement. My son was very much looking forward to his rookie season with Vanguard and was devastated by the news. Our family will always be thankful to the several corps that reached out to him personally within 24 hours of the biggest disappointment in his young life to offer even a chance at still participating this coming summer. He made the decision to give it a go so we scrambled to learn/prepare new music, record endless amounts of videos and submit them to those corps that reached out. To his credit, he was welcomed with open arms to several corps, which added to the difficulty of making a decision on what to do and where to go. My wife and I left this decision up to him, only asking him to make sure he considered everything from organization history, connection with staff that reached out, geography, potential friends who might join him, etc. Living in CA and for selfish reasons, we wanted him to stay in the West so that we could attend as many shows as possible. To our surprise, my son chose to be a Cadet so I will only be able to see him perform in San Antonio and possible Indy for finals week. We support his decision 100% and he is over the moon at the opportunity to be a part of such a storied program. We have a box delivering this Saturday filled with over $250 worth of Cadets merch, ready to support the corp from way out West! The travel to NJ from CA for the next 4 months will not be easy (or cheap) but the connection my son made with the staff literally overnight and since then has been nothing but positive. I only hope that the other displaced SCV members who chose to find another home have/had as great of an experience as my son did in finding The Cadets. This. This is the entire point right here. Nothing for me to add... ...although, I presume, from your name, that you're from San Diego? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAYGO Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, 2000Cadet said: This. This is the entire point right here. Nothing for me to add... ...although, I presume, from your name, that you're from San Diego? That would be correct. Ron Burgundy land. 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, DAYGO said: That would be correct. Ron Burgundy land. 😃 I lived in Mission Valley when I was stationed there (2002 - 2009). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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