JimF-LowBari Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: It was in late 1960s when at VFW, AL & other big contests Corps did shortened 8-min prelims shows. Judging was mainly on execution. So, Madison read the rules carefully and has the entire Corps off the field in 2-min except 2 bass drums, who marked time for the next 6-min. This led to a high execution score and Madison came in 12th, thus making finals. Other Corps were p*sssed & wanted Madison DQ’d which they were, moving IC Reveries into 12th. Them Madison successfully argued that they followed the rules & were put back in 12th, moving IC out of finals which led to the sit-in. Sister had a prof at her college in the 80s who was a IC member. He saw her wearing a corps shirt and they talked. Told her to ask if he was in the sit in. Week later she calls me “wth was the sit in!? I asked and his jaw dropped!”. 😳 No he aged out just before that year. Interesting that History of DC Vol II didn’t give details on either 27th or Scouts history. Knowing the whole story is 😳 Edited January 10, 2023 by JimF-LowBari 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Tim K said: I said I agreed with the placement, what I found unfair was that there was no penalty. Well they had to have enough on the field to meet the minimum which I think kicked in after the first 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOC Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: i can't remember the last time i saw a timing penalty in DCI unless someone took too long to set up their electronics Or used some powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, TOC said: Or used some powder. Timing & penalty judge... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just saw this and am unsurprised that a stupid rule change was the only one that passed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOC Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, keystone3ply said: Timing & penalty judge... BAC received a 1.0 penalty during prelims in 13 for powder usage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gak27 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: *respectfully snipped* So, Madison read the rules carefully and has the entire Corps off the field in 2-min except 2 bass drums, who marked time for the next 6-min. This led to a high execution score and Madison came in 12th, thus making finals. Other Corps were p*sssed & wanted Madison DQ’d which they were, moving IC Reveries into 12th. Them Madison successfully argued that they followed the rules & were put back in 12th, moving IC out of finals which led to the sit-in. So, what you're saying is, they "designed to the sheets"...? Edited January 10, 2023 by gak27 grammar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 8:38 AM, waliman4444 said: 8 Minutes?...Isn't that like BOA ?..So the audience participant(me) will pay more for less(possibly)? So I guess the adjudicators will not penalize a corps for an 8 minute show vs. an 11 minute show of equal quality?Maybe it's me, but I always thought drum corps contests (shows) could evolve into even longer presentations...But I guess logistics and travel considerations prevent that...With an activity that can't guarantee that you will see a show (outdoors), giving fans more not less seems reasonable..Also, going to a show with only 4 or 5 corps is going to be rough if you have to travel more than 2 hours both ways..So FLO will become even more important(yikes)!!!..All the above is just the rambling of a senior citizen who loves drum corps..I defer to my learned DCPers who know the activity better. I thought drumcorps shows used to be longer by a couple of minutes until they were shortened in the 1980's. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 minute ago, jjeffeory said: I thought drumcorps shows used to be longer by a couple of minutes until they were shortened in the 1980's. They were 13 but we had a concert section in the middle of the show. About three minutes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said: They were 13 but we had a concert section in the middle of the show. About three minutes. Back in the days when DCA prelims and finals were on the same day it was a crap shoot if the concert would be played at Prelims. If a bunch of corps were at prelims then concert would be scrapped to save time. Still remember corps staff yelling “no concert” as we’d go in for prelims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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